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11-27-04, 02:00 AM
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I haven't seen the "other thread" yet, but I will throw in my 2 cents here.... If people are interested in TP.com shirts, I'd definitely think about having some made. I have a way better logo to use than the one you see above though (just a different font and color) - just haven't gotten around to redesigning the header graphic yet. Anyone out there with solid Photoshop (and Flash - see ) skills want to donate a little of their time to do some graphics work for me???
Anyway, the much cooler logo is what I had printed on my poker chips. I'm going to bed now and will be gone all day tomorrow, but I'll scan a nice close-up for you guys on Sunday sometime. |
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11-27-04, 07:40 AM
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I can get you a deal
My father prints t-shirts as a small private business and has all the equipment to make some VERY nice shirts if you want. I can get you the friends and family discount I am sure (I know the owner).
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11-27-04, 10:18 AM
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We need something really cool here...
I brought up the idea originally (so bow down) so I'll throw in my 10 cents worth (pun intended).
You don't want them to be tacky, but we need something with a little swagger. I'll be wearing it at the B&M every time I go. Be cool to wear in the 100 man tourneys there that I plan to start frequenting. It'd be cool to come up with some semi-cocky slogan that would make people ask what does that mean? Something clever that would bring attention to the shirt and the forum. Let's get creative and come up with something and make sure that we get as much input from the regulars as possible. Please, make sure they don't have any NASCAR type feel to them though. I can't stand bowling/pit crew shirts worn by some of the pros out there. Oh yeah, and tie dye might be something cool. |
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11-27-04, 03:06 PM
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Ok - no NASCAR type shirts, but you want tie dye? Yea it would be cool - if this was a "legalize marijuana" forum. LOL. I think the tie dye is difficult if only for the simple reason that it's hard to get a good font which READABLE against all the varying backgrounds.
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11-29-04, 04:17 PM
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Well there is an extensive thread in the Off Topic forum about...nevermind.
I think its a pretty good idea, I probably wouldn't mind paying 10 bucks for a TP t-shirt, just nothing too tacky.
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11-29-04, 08:22 PM
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yeah no one should be asking TP to pay for these, its just an extra fun thing on the side to show our support for the forum...
we should have more styles than just a polo shirt, because personally i dont do polo shirts lol... how about a tshirt or a long sleeved shirt with the logo on the front and back? nothing too fancy, but i'm too young to wear polo shirts/... -jB |
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11-27-04, 03:07 PM
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I'm assuming these shirts would be free? It's killer publicity - especially to the B/M casino crowd.
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11-27-04, 04:41 PM
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FYI:
- Yes, I can afford a shirt. - I'm not asking for free clothes. - I promise, I will not ask for foodstamps. Here's my thinking, ass: TP is being very generous - giving away absolutely free money to promote his website and to make his presence know. I have already profited from the money he gave me. I thanked him for the money, told him I would keep posting, and plan on posting here even after the free money offer expires. I'm not trying to get more out of him - c'mon a tee shirt!? That being said, you have to realize that a tee shirt is a GREAT marketing tool. Cigarette companies, beer companies, and just about any company you can think of puts out advertisement-ridden clothing. Do they do this for fun? No... it makes them money. If I were to wear a TP teeshirt at the casino, it would reach hundreds on ONE TRIP. At the poker table, in the bathroom, when I have a cigarette [even though I quit!]... etc. [Not to mention advertisement at school, among my friends, etc.] He might decide, even WITH this free money offer, to buy a bunch of tee shirts: how many would say, 25 shirts cost??? Maybe $50 bucks? Under $100 - definitely. He might understand what a good tool the shirt advertisement is. He might understand that this reaches an audience who would like to open poker accounts. And finally, he might understand that more people would ask for a free tee shirt than buy one. And what does that mean? More publicity. Or, he might think like you, and decide that I'm just being cheap - and I'm just looking for a handout.
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11-27-04, 05:31 PM
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ok
point taken but im posting absolutley free so dont start with me and id be happy to throw a few dollars to him for a shirt since no-one uses his links and he is lossing out big time. I figured when starting this thread that everyone wouldnt have a problem paying a couple dollars to help out someone that is doing so much for everyone else. Only read half your post since you give me a headace, so if i stated anything the contridicts what you wrote sorry.
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11-28-04, 11:27 AM
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Sorry... but no way. This site has cost me PLENTY of money so far (did you know the software for this forum was $160 alone, not to menion web hosting, paying people to post and on and on and on), and it looks to only be costing me more. If I am ever going to break even (TBD), it's going to be a long ways down the road based on the amount of play through my affiliate links so far (which I really do appreciate!).
Yes, weaing a tshirt to a casino - if people do (obviously I would have no way of making them do this) - would expose the name to a number of people and a few of them might even check it out. Of those that see it on a gie trip, I'm thinking no more than one would create an account at the forum here. Realistically, that shirt is going to have to be exposed to... oh.... 2000 or more people before I earn a penny from it (someone sees it, reads it, remembers to check out the site, and then actually signs up to a poker site through my links). I know that number sounds crazy high, but I don't think it's all that far off. It might even be low. As for 25 shirts for $50.... that would be nice, but I don't see that happening either... not if you want a half decent shirt, anyway. And regardless of the cost, isn't it always easier for a bunch of people to kick in a small amount of money than for one guy to pay the entire bill? Maybe I'm only saying that because I'm the one guy, but I don't think so. Even the big poker sites don't just give you free promo material - and they have it made in BIG TIME bulk and get it dirt cheap. They also stand to profit a lot more from it, since they make money by people playing there and don't require the big extra step it take for me to make any money... In summary, no, these shirts will not be free. That's not to say you won't be able to earn one for 1000 posts or something like that, but they won't be falt out free... |
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11-28-04, 11:32 AM
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If you get me a logo and some kind of basic design you would like I can gt a sample made and post it here with a price for everyone to check out and then we would have a better idea of how much this will cost.
Shouldn't take more than a day or two to get a sample made.
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11-28-04, 12:38 PM
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I'm not even sure what kind of shirts we are talking about.... Tshirts would be cheapest, of course, but personally, I'd much rather have a classy looking golf-shirt with a nice embroidered logo on it.
I'll email you a logo anyay and see what you can come up with.. If people are interested in a more fancy design, let's see 'em. The person who comes up with the best design would of course get THEIR shirt for free  Anyone who wants a copy of the official logo to work with, email me and I'll send it to you. |
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11-28-04, 01:47 PM
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We disagree about the upswing (from the advertisement) but whatever. I can see where you're coming from.
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11-28-04, 02:03 PM
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I have to Agree with TP on this one....
Cost too much for him with little hope of a return. Think of this as a start-up business.... Cash is key. I think the numbers TP has guestimated are probably correct if not low. Every 2-3000 people see the shirt, maybe 10 will join the forum, and from that maybe 1 would sign up through a link. Of course it all depends on the personality of the shirt-wearer also. I would spam the hell out of rec-poker for a while simply because that's all it seems to be there for... Spam. Once we get a regular tourney going at Stars or where-ever (Absolute may be a good idea too), then people will see the private tourney and check out the site. From there word of mouth and the almighty internet will get the numbers up... Realisticly, TP needs approx 1500-1800 members to start making a steady profit. Unfortunately, With Cash being Key, I don't see a way to attract that many members without continuing the pay-to-post and TP subsequently going broke, other than private tourneys. Stars would be better because of the larger player base that may see them and check the site out. Back to the point I wanted to make when I started typing: Yeah I'd buy a shirt, Why not? $20-25 for a nice golf shirt with a little logo on the breast would be fine.... Would I wear it to the Casino? Considering I don't go regularly... maybe once or twice, but not often enough to have much of an impact on this site. Maybe some of the homegames I go to I'd wear it once in a while too, that would most likely generate more interest. We'll see what happens.
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11-28-04, 02:27 PM
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For TP to make money or break even on the t-shirt or BASEBALL CAP ideas what we need is one of us members to make it through to the tv stage of a big tourny.
I like the idea of wearing a t-shirt or BASEBALL CAP with the TP logo and then are name and member number. I think you guys who have gained your TP bonus shopuld dedicate the bonus to entering and qualifing for major tournys through satalites and if you make it pay TP back by wearing the TP t-shirt or BASEBALL CAP. Jim. |
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