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Old 10-30-06, 10:42 PM
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Your Net vs. BB hands are so different because there is a huge difference between playing .50/$1 and 1/2. I thought about going with "Net" hands (for me, they are the same), but realize this was a better way to go because of the people who play all month at level X but play a few dozen hands at much higher limits. Those hands could easily be your biggest Net winners and losers, but they aren't really the biggest hands. BB is the way to go.

As for this specific HH, I think you are being too hard on yourself. I actually don't think you played it badly at all - not perfectly, sure, but I think you played it well overall.
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I already posted a few big ones, but here we go...

Winner:

ktha posts small blind [$5].
LAGTARD posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to LAGTARD [ 2c 2d ]
gayboy69 folds.
atesfull calls [$10].
jarett21 folds.
homie101 folds.
ktha calls [$5].
LAGTARD checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Jd, 2h ]
ktha checks.
LAGTARD bets [$20].
atesfull raises [$70].
ktha folds.
LAGTARD calls [$50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
LAGTARD checks.
atesfull bets [$110].
LAGTARD raises [$300].
atesfull calls [$190].
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
LAGTARD bets [$800].
atesfull calls [$676].
** Summary **
LAGTARD shows [ 2c 2d ].
atesfull shows [ Kh Jh ].
LAGTARD shows [ 2c 2d ].
LAGTARD collected [$2118].
LAGTARD collected [$124].


Loser: (horrible, should've folded flop)

dodi114 posts small blind [$10].
miniphat posts big blind [$20].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to LAGTARD [ Jd Js ]
liclic calls [$20].
LAGTARD raises [$80].
dodi114 folds.
miniphat calls [$60].
liclic calls [$60].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 5c, 6s ]
miniphat checks.
liclic checks.
LAGTARD bets [$200].
miniphat raises [$500].
liclic folds.
LAGTARD raises [$1645].
miniphat calls [$548.5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2h ]
** Summary **
LAGTARD shows [ Jd Js ].
miniphat shows [ 7s 8s ].
miniphat collected [$2343].
LAGTARD collected [$796.5].
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Old 10-30-06, 11:18 PM
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My lowly winner (sure does suck to have to use poker winnings for real-life expenses).

FullTiltPoker Game #1114682539: Table Kepler (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:53:15 ET - 2006/10/17
Seat 1: Chappie1 ($100)
Seat 2: 3-2-1BuStO ($100)
Seat 3: johnpmaniac ($173.30)
Seat 4: weasel45 ($125.75)
Seat 5: mlsinokc ($109)
Seat 6: cheft009 ($87.35)
mlsinokc posts the small blind of $0.50
cheft009 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to johnpmaniac [8c Tc]
johnpmaniac raises to $4
weasel45 folds
mlsinokc calls $3.50
cheft009 calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Td 5h Th]
mlsinokc checks
cheft009 checks
johnpmaniac bets $9
mlsinokc calls $9
cheft009 folds
*** TURN *** [Td 5h Th] [9s]
mlsinokc checks
johnpmaniac bets $25
mlsinokc raises to $96, and is all in
johnpmaniac calls $71
mlsinokc shows [Qh Ah]
johnpmaniac shows [8c Tc]
*** RIVER *** [Td 5h Th 9s] [2s]
mlsinokc shows a pair of Tens
johnpmaniac shows three of a kind, Tens
johnpmaniac wins the pot ($220) with three of a kind, Tens
mlsinokc is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $222 | Rake $2
Board: [Td 5h Th 9s 2s]
Seat 1: Chappie1 is sitting out
Seat 2: 3-2-1BuStO is sitting out
Seat 3: johnpmaniac showed [8c Tc] and won ($220) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 4: weasel45 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: mlsinokc (small blind) showed [Qh Ah] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 6: cheft009 (big blind) folded on the Flop


Nothing too interesting to talk about here, I think.
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And the loser...

FullTiltPoker Game #1161846853: Table Easement (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:19:07 ET - 2006/10/28
Seat 1: blue10cj ($20)
Seat 2: homydntplay ($111.25)
Seat 3: pickless ($108.10)
Seat 4: rissarat ($99)
Seat 5: johnpmaniac ($166.75)
Seat 6: CHINCHDOG ($127.80)
rissarat posts the small blind of $0.50
johnpmaniac posts the big blind of $1
blue10cj posts a dead small blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to johnpmaniac [4h 6c]
CHINCHDOG folds
blue10cj folds
homydntplay calls $1
rissarat folds
johnpmaniac checks
*** FLOP *** [5s Ad 7c]
johnpmaniac checks
homydntplay bets $2
johnpmaniac calls $2
*** TURN *** [5s Ad 7c] [8d]
johnpmaniac checks
homydntplay bets $12
johnpmaniac has 15 seconds left to act
johnpmaniac raises to $36
homydntplay raises to $60
johnpmaniac raises to $163.75, and is all in
kristenIl (Observer): usa players welcome at:
homydntplay calls $48.25, and is all in
johnpmaniac shows [4h 6c]
homydntplay shows [6s 9c]
Uncalled bet of $55.50 returned to johnpmaniac
*** RIVER *** [5s Ad 7c 8d] [2h]
johnpmaniac shows a straight, Eight high
homydntplay shows a straight, Nine high
CHINCHDOG: cold deck
homydntplay wins the pot ($220.50) with a straight, Nine high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $223.50 | Rake $3
Board: [5s Ad 7c 8d 2h]
Seat 1: blue10cj folded before the Flop
Seat 2: homydntplay (button) showed [6s 9c] and won ($220.50) with a straight, Nine high
Seat 3: pickless is sitting out
Seat 4: rissarat (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: johnpmaniac (big blind) showed [4h 6c] and lost with a straight, Eight high
Seat 6: CHINCHDOG didn't bet (folded)
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This is a spot I really struggle with. With a board THIS draw heavy, I have a hell of a time laying down an overpair. Many (most) opponents will play hands like any pair+straight draw, Ac6c, 77-TT, and so on exactly like this.

I think it's +EV to fold to his flop raise, as you said, but I'm simply not sure yet. This is very opponent dependent, IMO.

Would like to read others opinions of this situation, for sure.
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firstly, the board is incredibly set-licious; 44, 55 and 66 are all very, very possible.

We only really crush TT and 99, and are ahead against 88.

33, 77, flush draws (plus over) and pair/straight draws (eg 67) will all be coinflip-ish.

i didn't really think of the straight at the time, but it's another possibility. As is the monster draw of 67cc.

my thinking at the time was "oh f--- off, show me siebens" (that's german yo).

villain has $550 after raising us (we have no folding equity), so we basically have to invest another $850 to win roughly $1500 (not sure - $250 from preflop, plus our $200 on the flop, plus villain's $1050).

i really think we'll be up against a set an awful lot of the time here, i think it's a fold.


edit: slowplayed AA/KK/QQ also possible, albeit unlikely

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