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Old 09-07-06, 04:36 PM
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I'm not sure. Sometimes I think I undervalue KJ in a tournament situation; I know it's a much better hand to play in a situation like that than, say, in a cash game. I guess I'm still trying to figure out the right way to come into KJ from the blind. Advice?
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Never, ever, ever, ever min raise out of the blinds with any hand, especially a marginal one like KJ. All min raising does is build the pot out of position and allow early limpers to limp/reraise. Just call the SB.

BTW, what is your reasoning for min raising with KJ out of the blinds? This is not towards detriment for you, I was just curious why people do this.
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Old 09-07-06, 05:27 PM
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KJ sucks.
Min raises from the BB suck.
Put the two together and YUCK!

Other than that though, you can't hope to get your chips in as any bigger a favorite that that... And he's full of shit saying he thought you had a straight.
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It was a feeler bet, and an easy fold on a reraise. You're right, though ... in hindsight, I probably should have just called the SB.
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If you think about it, a min raise form the BB does NO "feeling." (Ignopring the SB), if Players A, B, and C are willing to call one bet with 1, 2, and 3 bets in the pot, they are CERTAINLY going to call 1 more bet with 4, 5, and 6 bets in the pot. You asked them to call the same amount, but gave them pot odds twice as good the second time around. No one should ever (or would ever) fold to this, so you've gained no information, haven't narrowed the field. All you've done is doubled the size of the pot.

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Absolutely. So the moral is, either call the SB there or, if I'm going to raise in that position, grow a pair and actually put forth a "real" feeler bet?
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Well, you were actually in the BB, so all you had to do was check. But yeah, if you want to raise, raise. Make it AT LEAST 4x the BB (I'd prefer 5). With KJ though, just check.
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