Do some make it too hard, or do I over simplify?

johnp158 · #1 07-09-06, 11:34 PM

What the hell?

Just because you're playing low limits doesn't mean that you ignore math. The situation you're talking about sounds a little different, but I was reading a hand discussion the other day where they were on the bubble of a SNG, and when all the math had been run, it was pretty much commonly accepted that folding KK in that situation was the right play. SNGs are just about the most mechanical form of NL poker there is. It's taking a lot of practice for me to really figure out these situations, and I don't spend nearly as much time with SNGPT (SNG Power tools) as I should, trying to determine EV for pushing and calling in all kinds of situations.

The point is, yes, there is a lot that you miss but just making automatic moves with hands like that in critical situations.

sjay, I respect your posts, but I'm pretty surprised that you're so quick to just say, "It's low limit poker, it's simple."

Boobie Lover · #2 07-10-06, 01:00 AM

I would probably load up SNG power tools and then put this exact situation in there and then begrudgingly fold.

EDIT: Um, nevermind. This is a call even in SNG Power Tools. QQ+ should be the calling range. If both small stacks were 200, and you knew the big chip stack had a fairly tight range of pushing, then it would be a fold. Here, this is horrible fold.

johnp158 · #3 07-10-06, 12:27 PM

Right. The situation that was being discussed that I talked about included somebody else already having called the allin with a smaller stack.

Penguinfan · #4 07-10-06, 01:02 PM

That is a whole different scenario in my opinion. The VERY LAST thing you want to happen is to lose the big side pot to the chip leader only to see the small stack triple up on the small main pot while you head to the rail saying "I could have just folded"

Interestly I think if there was an all-in and a caller the only hand the big stack could (or should) push with is AA simply because he shouldn't want to see the samll stack stay alive and double you up to the chip lead, and he really shouldn't care if you take the 1200 chips off the small stack.