dutch boyd

Penguinfan · #1 12-01-04, 03:25 PM

Not that I would ever direct someone to RGP, but it might be easiest to do a search on him there.

I am a bit biased as I wasn't a customer that lost money at PokerSpot and have talked several times with Dutch and have a great deal of respect for him. You will get people who tell you just the opposite.

The story that I have goes like this, and you will get different angles from everyone, and I am not saying I am right.

He operated with partners a place called pokerspot.com that was taking deposits via credit card, the credit card processing company never gave them the money for the deposits, thus they had no way to pay the players who wanted cashouts and the players got screwed in the deal. Thats the short of it, though I am sure there is more to it. I tend to believe Boyd and his partners as they stood to make a bunch more money via the rake than they made stealing deposits.

Although Dutch wasn't the only one involved people seem to hold him responsible, probably because he was very visible during the 03 WSOP.

Thats just my take, like I said you can find more info.

ChipFish · #2 12-01-04, 03:47 PM

You are giving facts here.

Unfortunately, you are leaving out many, many facts which support the reasoning why Dutch's reputation is worthless.

Put it this way...
Would you risk any money on one of his sites?
I won't.

Talking Poker · #3 12-01-04, 04:22 PM

I've been considering adding Interviews to this site in the near future, and Dutch is one of the people on my mental list. I met him at this year's WSOP, and he was nothing but kind to me - seemed to be very down to earth, and a very likeable guy.

Maybe I could get in touch with him and let him explain his side of the story here. I know I have read about it on his site, but maybe he'd be able to answer any specific questions people have. I'll try to get in touch with him...

More info:

Chutups · #4 12-04-04, 07:30 AM

That's a good idea TP, I've read so much negative stuff I'ld like to see what he says.

Dutch Boyd · #5 12-07-04, 12:17 PM

Hey all,

So I got an email from the administrator here, who I met this year at the WSOP main event. He was cool enough to let me use his media pass to get inside the velvet rope and check on my brother. Pretty useful having one of those passes... the bullpen is a circus during the main event.

Anyway, he emailed me and said that I might come on and check out the discussion going on about me. I don't have that much new to say about Pokerspot, but can give some places where you can see what has been said before. First, I posted some info about the site on my blog at . Check it out if you get the chance. Also, there is a an interview up at under the FAQ page.

One thing I will say is this... I'm not trying to make a quick buck in online poker. If you've followed what I've been up to in the last couple of years, I've been working pretty hard to try and get a rakefree cardroom out there. It really is sick how much money goes down that hole. I'd estimate Party is making at least a quarter of a billion a year in rakes.

Also, if anybody has any specific questions they can either ask them here or shoot me an email. I'd prefer that you ask them here, though, so that I can get some money for answering the post.

Great concept here by the way, admin. I really hope this site continues to boom. And if you do get around to doing interviews, know that I'll support your site anyway I can.

Cheers,
Dutch

Talking Poker · #6 12-07-04, 12:27 PM

Thanks a lot, Dutch - I appreciate you stopping by.

I hope this place continues to boom too! Feel free to tell your poker buddies about it, and come back any time. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we'd love to have you as a regular poster here.

Penguinfan · #7 12-07-04, 12:40 PM

Does this really seem like a guy with something to hide? Personally I hope he comes by often enough to get your $105 TP

hime · #8 12-08-04, 12:59 PM

Seeing Dutch Boyd listed as "Fish" cracks me up.

Talking Poker · #9 12-08-04, 01:21 PM

Why? It's true

Penguinfan · #10 12-01-04, 04:24 PM

Can you elaborate?

ChipFish · #11 12-01-04, 04:28 PM

Yes I can. Will I? No.
Sorry.

Penguinfan · #12 12-01-04, 04:49 PM

Thats fair, no problem.

Defendant · #13 12-01-04, 04:52 PM

TP, id like that. Unlike the highly opinionated crew at RGP, I believe most of us here have a bit more open minds as to where both sides of the story should be heard, and who better to present Dutch's side than Dutch!

Defendant

eddo31 · #14 12-01-04, 05:05 PM

do you think that we would actually get legitimate answers to any of the questions we ask? i have read what he posted about pokerspot, but the cynical side of me thinks that the only reason he is trying to clear his own name is that there is serious money to be made in other online poker projects right now.

i dont know him at all, and it doesnt really matter to me how he is portrayed on the wsop, but i would be very wary of ever depositing anythign with him.