I got Punk'd.

[Aequitas58]

Here's a partial update for the railbirds:

(1) Yahoo Customer Support has been no help at all. Their response time is next to shit, but it's expected as they are so big. I was kind of savvy this morning: I used some information gained from Stars, applied it to my newly-jacked Yahoo Email account and obtained access. I instantly re-changed the passwords and personal information. My account is in tact, thankfully, nothing was deleted.

(2) Talked to Stars support, obtained his IP address, traced his IP - which led me to his street address. I have requested a postal inquiry from the Postmaster of his city to verify. In the interim, I have also reclaimed "Aequitas58" on Stars. With $.02 left in my account, and feeling susceptible to future hijacks, I contacted Stars support, created a new account and transferred my FFPs. I am now playing on Stars under a name that will remain secret. This person's accounts, (three to be exact), have been shut down and (I believe) his IP banned by Stars.

(3) I have deleted my Neteller account, and I will have to create a new one before re-depositing.

(4) I know who this person is, and it is a member of this forum. I have spoken to this person, and I have been promised that the money will be returned to me. I stressed to this person that, as a lawyer, I have not yet pulled the trigger on the possible charges he might be facing. These include, but are not limited to: wire fraud, bank fraud, criminal impersonation, criminal mischief, identity theft, harrassment, and maybe some new crimes generated by this wave of new cyber-"law." This person has until Friday to get a check or money order in the mail. For the time being, I will refrain from exposing this person.

(5) How did he lose the money? LOL. I guess he was surprised to only see ~$300 in there. I'm buying a house, and poker is taking a major backseat. Nevertheless, he sat w/ all of it at $15/30 lhe, and lost it w/in 10 hands. Stars cannot refund the money.

MISC:
-Neteller and Stars support are completely top notch. I had my Neteller problems dissolved in 1 hr, and I was able to get on the phone w/ Star Security w/in 24 hrs. At least that's a positive.
-I have not had to make a deposit into online poker since depositing after taking my bar exams (when I came back from my break). TY and GG, hijacker, for making me re-deposit.
-Be careful with your personal information. Let too much out, and someone can take advantage.

[johnp158]

Wow.

[PShabi]

Yes, wow is right. Also, as a warning to the board:

Having your city and birthdate posted on the internet is all someone needs to get into your Yahoo account. That's it. Mr. Morals actually told Lou that.

And to you, Mr. Morals. There is no doubt in my mind that you tried to log in to my account w/ the details that were in Lou's inbox. Consider yourself lucky that you did not gain access and fuck up my bankroll. Because I guarantee you that a $150 plane ticket to Missouri would've been well within my means and you would regret the day you signed up for this forum.

I'm almost hoping you don't pay Lou because I KNOW he will fuck you up to the fullest extent of the law, and then some. Get out of your little habit of scamming people right now, because you aren't always going to have the computer to hide behind.

[bunny]

If it is a member of this forum, I think we have a right to know who it is. We might all be in danger of this type of scam.

I also think he/she should be banned immediately.

[melioris]

Aeq, I strongly suggest you go after this individual to the fullest extent of your capabilities. By aggressively pursuing prosecution of this individual you ensure that this individual does not repeat this crime, particularly against a more helpless victim that he/she can really hurt financially.

Also, this is part of the problem with the nebulous legal nature of online poker. But you still have the NETELLER fraud to hit this person with, even if you don’t want to get into the pokerstars part of the crimes this person committed against you.

Revealing the identity of this person is of minor importance. This will come out in good time. Taking steps to ensure the mechanism this person exploited is no longer in place is of far more importance.

You’re a young lawyer, I am sure you have read some of the classics. WWJCD? (What would Julius Caesar do?) Get Roman on their ass.

[bunny]

I still don't understand how he got into your neteller account. Was this person a friend of yours, that you met on here? Is that it. Did you ever let him play on your account? Did he hijack your computer or just guess your Yahoo password and got into your Yahoo account where all your passwords were stored?

Glad you caught the s.o.b.

If I were you though, I'd report him. He might be scamming other people and it's up to you, since you know who it is, to stop him.

edit: I tried posting this right after my last post, but didn't seem to work. But I fully agree with Mel on this one. You can't just think of your case, Aeq. You have to think of all the other people he might have done this to or will do. You can't pardon him, by letting him go free after he compensates you for your loss. It's not right.

[Aequitas58]

At this juncture, I don't think you have a right to know who it is.

[badblood44]

I'd like to reiterate bunny's question about how the Neteller access was compromised.

Any information you can share about how the account's were breached would most certainly be valuable to everyone here.

[Aequitas58]

Yahoo was my Neteller email account. My Neteller account details were saved in an email, which was saved in my inbox.

[Reel Deal]

GG asswipe.

[jimmym]

bOLLOCKS,,,,,,,,,Sorry for the word but its meant to represent your decision, as a lawyer you know you should prosecute this shit not give him until Friday,that decision is a load of Bollocks.
And why the fuck should us forum members be left in the dark as to know who the fuck the shit is, surely as a crime as been committed and you as a lawyer are willing to turn a blind eye so long as you are compensated from the shit does not make everything ok.
IMHO you should not give the shit a chance to answer for their actions but Prosecute and we should know who he is regardless.
If the shit is bothered then they can hire you to represent them, Fuck its annoying and I am really suprissed on your decision and am sorry to say I know have misgivens about this thread ,perhaps the chance of the longest for April is true if not I doubt your chances of becoming a succesfull lawyer, you seem too soft with criminals...have you ever considered the church.......

Weve Been Punked

[Reel Deal]

Whoa there jimmym. There's the theoretical side of the law and then there's the practical side. If Lou wants to get his money back through legal channels he'd have to file a civil law suit against this person and, more than likely, he'd have to file it in the jurisdiction where this person lives. The cost of filing the suit, traveling to that jurisdiction to try the case and the cost of litigating the case would far, far exceed the amount he's owed.

In theory, yeah, I'm sure he'd love to sue this guy. In practice to do so would cost him a lot more than he'd receive in damages. The smart thing to do is exactly what he's doing... it's the fastest way to get his money back, and the least expensive route as well.

He can, of course, report this to the authorities (and he may well do that, I don't think he's said either way whether he will or won't), but it will then be up to them whether any criminal charges are brought.

[jimmym]

I do understand this but there are times I am afraid when we have to suffer our personal losses when fucked by a shit but the law can deal with this scum and in this case its best to get the twat arrested and I for one would be happy to contribute a few $ to Aequitas to help his bankroll back up just to know that this shit who STOLE from him is getting his due rewards in the correct way.

On reflection though its Lou,s desicion and I will respect what he does as we must remember he was the victim in all this.

[melioris]

If Canadians swore like the Brits, Canadians would be a whole lot cooler.

[bunny]

We're already 'cool', no need to swear to be cooler.

Where are you from Mel?

[jimmym]

What a load of Fuckinn bollocks you Canadians swear much more than us motherfuckin stupid wankin twatin brits, all bastarding day you Candaians use shit Ass Monkey Blow Job words. The Fuckin French learned you lot how to talk butthole c0ck launguage and they teach their kids words such as Carpet Muncher, Clit and even cum just to describe food.

The twatin Turks though well fuck me they really know how to cock-suck with their mouths just to talk to someone, dyke is a commonplace word and even faggot has a second meaning.Scotish people cant even talk to us English on the phone without swearing Lesbian masterbater Motha Fuckers is just what they call their sisters and penis-breath pr1ck is what a girl would say to her boyfriend on many a time after kissing.

So how can you even suggest that we Brits swear its just not pussy retard right. sluts yes thats right son-of-a-bitch tit, vagina there the only words us brits use wh0re perhaps now and again.

[GeoffM]

Jimmy, I think when I'm drunk I can pretty much swear with the best of them.

[Aequitas58]

Come on man, save it for another thread - I don't think anyone wants to sift through this shit.

[bunny]

I'm sure AeQ will do the right thing.

Let him first collect his money and then he can call the authorities on him.

Has this twat been banned from here yet?

[Aequitas58]

Jimmy, I saw your post and was ready to reply... then I saw this. It encapsulates everything I was going to say, and it even worded it better.

C'mon, RD would never use "worded" in a post.

EDITED TO ADD: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Reel Deal again.

[SirFWALGMan]

Sounds like Brian!

[BrianSwa]

im probobly one of the most honest people you will ever meet. My stars account is still in tact and I knew Lou was lawyer. I would never EVER steal from anyone EVER did I mention ever. Before you go throwing names around be sure you really know what the hell your talking about.


since I have never ever stolen anything from anyone how would you even come up with that. Sorry I have to add on here I really want you to respond to tell me how you could possibly come to the conclusion to even imagine it would be me.


1. I have morals and I'am a good person so this would go against everything I believe in.
2. I dont know Lou good enough to have his personal info
3. im not computer smart enough to find out his info.
4. same as 1
5-100. same as #1

[Talking Poker]

I assumed he was kidding when I read that, Brian.

[BrianSwa]

im kinda behind in all the posts but stealing is something im real touchy about as I guess you can see. If he was kidding I appoligize for everything I said.

[Reel Deal]

OK, OK, I'll admit it... it was me. So you can stop guessing and bothering Lou.

We older lawyers like to play tricks like this on the younger ones, kinda of a hazying ritual. A right of passage if you will. All in good fun.