Uh-oh! Somebody else is getting JJ'ed!

[JDMcNugent7]

this is crazy, awesome that party is actually all over this - obv. no1 ever thought they would do a thing about it.

[Robbie Robb]

This weekend's the weekend to playing the big MTTs! Of course, the usually 5000+ entries may be down with all these multi-account holders not playing

[Boobie Lover]

What surprises me the most is how stupid these guys went about it. You'd think that they would set up some proxies for this to get some different IP addresses, instead of just red flagging themselves and saying "LOOK AT ME! OVER HERE!"

[melioris]

this is great. I still can't believe that a few people over at 2+2 are defending them, at least in saying that they shouldn't have all the money in each account taken. Take it all, give those affected a refund, with the rest have a "cheater free" freeroll.

[Gordogg]

That's hilarious! The really funny thing is, when I read his website yesterday, he mentioned he was going to be eight tabling sng's but not under his ZeeJustin account. Then he stated he doesn't want to give out the account name he'll be playing under because he's not sure if Party is ok with him having another account, (or six) lol. Then he said "So, if you see somebody eight tabling that's from Sherman Oaks, it's probably me." LOL>

I just went to his website to copy and paste what he said, but it looks like he removed it, lmao. Hmmmm, I thought ZeeJustin was smart. I can almost guarantee that is what started the investigation.

[GTDawg]

I'm quite sad that people like this are better at poker than me

[bdawg31]

I can't believe it either - they HAVE to take all the money or its no deterrent. I dont see how people don't get that?

If the only thing that they took was money won by the proven cheating (i.e. a tourney hit) - then they would have nothing to lose. Worst case - you get caught and you just lose what you wouldnt have won anyway. They have to clean out every penny of all accounts to send a message.

If someone is caught stealing - you dont just take back what they stole and call it even. You punish them - which serves as a deterrent to others.

[X-Longshot-X]

Agreed...People would just keep playing and playing under new names if all that would happen would be that the money they won from tourney win was taken....you have to take it all so that others wont do it.....i bet we have a few multi-accounters cashing out here soon before they get caught.....

[melioris]

The link at the top of this thread is entertaining. My favorite so far is a high and mighty 2+2er misusing schadenfreude. And I don’t even speak german.

These young guns are exceptional players. But did their apparent lack of ethics result from being too successful too young? Clearly dropping out of school (high school or college) and playing poker was the better decision financially, but maybe they should have taken some time and spent some money on private education, akin to what young actors do when they achieve stardom and leave school (the smart ones at least).

Before internet, young poker players had to come up in the B&M card rooms. The last world-class players to do this are Ivey and Negreanu, maybe? I can’t imagine either of these players doing something like this, possibly because they were older-mid 20s-before they became hugely successful.

Now I don’t mean to suggest all young internet successful pros are cheaters, just that they need to be careful . They are getting poker experience at an unprecedented rate. In the BM days, poker experience and maturity were on a similar timescale. Not anymore. I don't know how they should deal with this discrepancy though.

[2Tone]

Elsewhere on 2+2, Zee confirms it is true, and offers a defense, denying any colluding or chip dumping.

What I wonder about – and assume Party must have considered – is what financial impact this crackdown will have. They've seized at least $140k in the past few days from a couple of very high profile players. They'll redistribute a portion (how much?) of that, but I have to imagine that Party will end up keeping a good chunk of it. On the other hand, they'll lose any future rake generated from these players, which is likely to be considerable.

Meanwhile, anyone else who has multiple accounts will immediately pull as much cash out as fast as they can. Will increased player confidence from the rest of the poker community make up for or exceed this?

It's nice to think that Party took this action because it was the right thing to do, but I'm sure these factors were a consideration as well.

[BDMK]

as in the previous case, kudos to party and just wondering if stars might do some investigating too?

methinks not...too large of a bubble just might burst in the process and no amount of raymer and hachem commercials will be able to fix that.