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02-01-06, 10:26 PM
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Thank you.
As for the others who think there is such a thing as a beatable casino game (without cheating), I'm sorry, but I'm laughing at you. Not only that, but I would be glad to deal BJ to you all day long, every day. |
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02-02-06, 12:32 PM
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Online BJ with bonuses is +EV, if you get the right game, learn the basic strategy, and quit after clearing the bonuses. Having said that....probably half the people here wouldn't have the discipline to do all three...lol
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02-02-06, 03:20 PM
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I can't help it...
I know I'm only adding my voice to a bunch of others, and it won't convince anybody that isn't already convinced.
But the ONLY casino game where the house doesn't have an edge is poker. With poker the rake is how the house makes money, and you can see it coming out of the hand and how much they make. With ALL OTHER GAMES, including Blackjack, the house wins more money than the players do, and that is how they make their money. You may do better than the other players at your table consistently, but DO NOT make the mistake of thinking you are beating the house. YOU ARE NOT. MathBabe |
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02-02-06, 03:30 PM
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And this is precisely why I don't consider poker to be a "casino game," wven though it can be played in a casino. With poker, the house is basically charging you for the right to play there... but you are not competing with the house (like in all the "casino games") - your competition is in fact the other players. If you are better than them, you can win (in the long run). But it's impossible to be better than the house in any casino game, obviously (at least it should be obvious).
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02-02-06, 04:19 PM
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Actually, there are some video poker machines that are slightly beatable, but most people play them so poorly that the casinos still have them.
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02-02-06, 04:24 PM
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Yes, you're absolutely right, I shouldn't have referred to it that way.
Poker is more like a game where the casino rents out the table and the use of the dealer, cards, and chips. Like you say, it's under their roof, but not one of their games. So what's this thread doing under General POKER Discussion, anyway? |
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02-02-06, 04:42 PM
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My bad. I started this thread in here...
 But...PartyPoker is a POKER site isn't it?  Hence the Poker related thread. 
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02-02-06, 04:44 PM
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I'm sure the casino still makes a killing off poker - its not like they are breaking even like ur kind of suggesting. If theres a rake at all - we are all being set up to lose - its just that poker is alot easier to find and maximize ur edges in(if ur good), than a game like blackjack is. It's still def. one of "their games".
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02-02-06, 05:06 PM
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Well, of course they are making money off of pokwer - no one suggested they weren't. They are taking money from every single pot (or an hourly rate at the higher limits), and they can not lose any more, ever. So yeah, of course they are making money.
But that's looking at it from the casino side, and unless any of us plan on opening a casino sometime soon, that doesn't really matter to us. We should be looking at these games from the player side. Any game where you are playing against the house is -EV. Period. Only if you are playing against other players and NOT the house (like poker) can you possibly find yourself in a +EV situation. |
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