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Old 10-21-04, 05:02 PM
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Funny you bring that up, I have folded AA before the flop once. Satellite where top 25 got to the big game and 26 players left I had a small amount of chips but 2 all-ins called by a giant stack made it easy for me to lay them down, if either one of the smaller stacks busts out then I get the same prize as the first place guy. As luck would have it he did bust out both the smaller stacks with KK, I would have won the hand, but who cares now.
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Old 10-21-04, 05:15 PM
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This is a great example. I would have made this fold too. You're in a positin where you're not playing to win, but rather playing to NOT lose.

A better example would be if you had the second biggest stack and the biggest stack went all in preflop (in the same satellite scenario). That would be the easiest fold of my life.
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Old 10-21-04, 06:40 PM
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It would be hard to call on the first hand and risk your entire $10,000 but I think you have to if you want to advance very far, especially with the large number of players this year and an even larger crowd expected next year. I just wouldn't watch until all the cards are out.
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theres no circumstance that would ever make folding AA preflop the right move.... even in satellites when you have a big stack and theres 1 more person to go before you get an entry to a bigger tourney, you should call an all in because you will PROBABLY win the hand, and this is your best chance to knock out the last guy, and cash. folding here in order to stay away from action is very, very stupid because you are prolonging the satellite and you could have just ended it right there, instead of potentially getting blinded down to nothing if everyone else decides to take advantage of a person using a post-and-fold pussy strategy.

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You missed a key part of my post (I hope):

Note that you are pretty much guaranteed to win this tourney (only one loser left), but you are willing to risk your entire stack against a bigger stack? No way. That would be crazy. You HAVE to fold here.
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I would only fold in this position if there were 2 or 3 very short stacks at the table, whose knockouts were bound to happen within 20 hands anyways. if everyone was about even, theres no way i could fold if i knew i could cripple the big stacker at this point. You're right in what you said, but I would only fold in this position if a shortstack is about to get killed by the blinds.

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Old 10-23-04, 03:11 AM
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first hand, you have to push it in. if you want to play as scared money, then you have no business in being there in the first place.

like others said, the only way i ever lay down aces preflop, is when you are on the bubble in a satellite, there are multiple players already all in, and there is no benefit to moving up in the chip count. other than that, i am just hoping that they hold up.
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