Hypothetical question (buy I've always wondered)

Jackass_man · #1 10-21-04, 02:16 PM

The day I start laying down AA preflop is the day I quit playing, sure there is times during a hand that you have to lay them down common sense dictates as hard as some people find doing it.

2Tone · #2 10-21-04, 02:27 PM

With two players, I'd be even more likely to call than one, as I'd put one of them on KK, maybe the other on AK suited.

GeoffM · #3 10-21-04, 02:40 PM

You have to have the winning mentality to play these huge tourneys properly. If you aren't trying to win, you won't. Simple as that. I would go all-in with X other players, since you have just as good a chance of nailing you set for the pot. Plus winning a massive pot like that first hand would be a massive head start and advantage.

Talking Poker · #4 10-21-04, 03:58 PM

I'll tell you when I would consider laying down AA preflop...

Same scenario as above, but instead of us talking about the first hand of the tourney, how about when you are on the bubble. 226 players left, with the Top 225 getting paid. Next guy out loses, and everyone else wins at least 15 grand (hello, next year!).

My chip could would be a big factor here (like if I was short, but not short enough that I have to worry about getting blinded off for a few rounds), as would who made the raise, etc. I would probably go all in, but I have to tell you, I just might consider folding.

2Tone · #5 10-21-04, 04:38 PM

Wow. Good one.

I should research the payout structure at the WSOP to make a more informed decision.

Man -- that is a tough. If had both of the first two all ins covered by enough that I could survive at least two more orbits, I call. If I have less than enough to cover two orbits as is, I call.

Anywhere in-between ... I fold. But how the hell could I fold pocket Aces pre-flop in the WSOP?

That is an evil dilemma, and I just spent way too much time thinking about it.

Penguinfan · #6 10-21-04, 05:02 PM

Funny you bring that up, I have folded AA before the flop once. Satellite where top 25 got to the big game and 26 players left I had a small amount of chips but 2 all-ins called by a giant stack made it easy for me to lay them down, if either one of the smaller stacks busts out then I get the same prize as the first place guy. As luck would have it he did bust out both the smaller stacks with KK, I would have won the hand, but who cares now.
You get one guess what I busted out of the 200+15 game with.....

Talking Poker · #7 10-21-04, 05:15 PM

This is a great example. I would have made this fold too. You're in a positin where you're not playing to win, but rather playing to NOT lose.

A better example would be if you had the second biggest stack and the biggest stack went all in preflop (in the same satellite scenario). That would be the easiest fold of my life.