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01-05-06, 03:45 PM
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So I was ahead right? That's what I thought at first till Gordogg said the other guy was ahead.
So about this bad beat, maybe I don't quite get it yet; but if I was ahead and I had top hand at the time isn't it a bad beat for me?
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01-05-06, 03:48 PM
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you were ahead roughly 65/35... its not a bad beat because a bad beat amoungst other things, is when a very unlikely winner comes out (10% or so)
If I have AA and you have Ah Kd The flop comes Ad 4c 7d and you move all in and i call The turn comes 8d and the river 10d, you win with a flush... thats a bad beat!
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01-05-06, 04:16 PM
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Ok I might look foolish again, but only way I'll learn anything is if I say what I'm thinking whether it's stupid or not. Which in this case it might be but here goes nothing.
So the bad beat in this case is that you had the stronger, better hand and he went all in and won it by getting lucky, with his only chance for a flush. Is that it?
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01-05-06, 04:37 PM
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Who went all in doesnt matter... the main thing is when all the money went in a SIGNIFICANT underdog, came back to win the pot (and usually this also involved him making a bad decision)
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01-05-06, 04:42 PM
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Thankyou so much teach!
 I think I learned enough for today, now got to read up on 'Pot odds' for tomorrow's lesson. 
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01-05-06, 04:51 PM
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He was ahead PRE flop. A King is better than a Q no?
Here is a trick to find out the percentage of you hitting your hand. On the flop times your outs by four. So if you had four outs to improve to a full house, 4 outs x 4=16% to make your hand by the river. He had 8 outs to hit his straight so 8 outs x 4=32% to make it by the river. That's with two cards to come. On the turn with one card to come, you times your outs by 2. So if you didn't hit your full house on the turn, 4 outs x 2=8% for you to hit it on the river. These percentages are rough estimates, but they are close enough to the actual percentage that it doesn't really factor into your decision. Hope this helps. |
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01-05-06, 04:59 PM
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Hmm...you're right too. Preflop, King was a better hand than mine. If there was nothing on the board for either of us he'd have beat me with his high king.
Thanks for the easy lesson on percentages; hadn't reached that chapter yet, guess I could skip it now.
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01-06-06, 02:05 AM
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Rook - go play with this for a while:
And open that poker book that I know you bought and read about "counting outs." |
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