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[Jackass_man]

thank you

[Charlie Frank]

JackAss Man, the question was never whether you played the set correctly -the question was whether your opponent played it correctly. Raising a 4 flush on the flop and capping it is almost always a good idea. There would be some times when it wouldn't necessarily be a good idea, like if you are headsup and out of position. I missed the bit about him capping it on the turn - that's another story altogether - it sounds like bad play but that doesn't necessarily mean it is. You need to work on his writing skills and the way you describe action on a hand - you didn't even say what his opponent's hand was or what his playing style up until that point was. Let me know if you want me to give you an example of a well-described hand.

JohnBaker, see above. The question was never about his play - show me where he asked "Did I play this set correctly?"

JohnBaker - you said this! Anyone - ANYONE - that makes a statement like that obviously has NO clue how to play limit poker. Considering this is a limit poker thread, it makes you look pretty silly to be offering advice when, by your own admission, you can't do well at it. You can apologise whenever you like.

Buddy, if you are complaining about beats in limit holdem, then you would blow your mind in omaha. O8 would drive you completely bonkers. So it is clear you know nothing about omaha either. Unless you apologise, I will not talk to you again. If you do apologise for being dumb and opinionated (being dumb is not a crime, being dumb AND opinionated IS), then I will teach you a bit about both games.

In summary, the way you learn (and trust me, you guys need to learn) is by being polite and asking intelligent questions. Trying to insult people that can help you is simply not a good idea.

CF

[Jackass_man]

Ok Charles you do have a point that I did not describe the hand well. The player was playing like a maniac he held A7d .

[johnbaker]

Ok where shall we start?

first of all, fuck you CF. You really are a stupid ass, i just wanted to get that out there. Not only from this post, but other ones you did that make little, if any sense.

moving on, let's see how you repeatedly contradict yourself here:

wow.... how about you GIVE an example of something you described well in this sentence. you write like a clumsy old man sitting at home by himself fumbling with his keyboard, not sure if he should commit himself to one idea or another. You say that capping with a nut flush draw is 'usually a good idea', but you dont explain why. Then you say that 'capping on the turn is a bad play', even though he made the flush on the turn (if i remember the post correctly)..... oh no, capping with the nuts. WHAT A BAD PLAY!

ok, how about your first post in this topic:

you're implying that you can teach us something more than we already know, according to what we posted already. The poster played the hand correctly, i dont know why else you would be offering him poker advice unless you thought that he misplayed the hand.

I think he's referring to when I said this:

"in every 2/4 limit game ive ever played in i get a family pot about 2 out of 3 hands. even if i tighten up and play only premium hands, i would be at BEST a 33% favorite (with AA) when entering a pot."

See, I still know that my math is right and that my statistics are right... in a family pot, ANY HAND IS AN UNDERDOG. The odds of one of 8 other hands not flopping 2 pair, a set, or a draw, is fairly unlikely. I seriously dont get why you refuse to understand this; until you see a flop, you cant tell if you're up against a draw or a set or a made hand, because the cards come COMPLETELY RANDOMLY. 66% of the flops you see (in your best case scenario) will give at least one other player a legitimate shot at cracking your aces, even if everyone holds trash hands like J2o. You know why? Chances are that one of those 8 hands up against you will get a 2 and a J on the flop. Its simply a rule of statistics. I'm not even talking about gameplay here, just the statistics. I'm right. You aren't. Get over it.




Oh no, the thought of not having your poker advice is just too much to bear... (I'd sarcastically ask for forgiveness but he'd take me seriously, like he did in the PP cracked joke post)

I'm well aware of the beats that happen in O8B, and if you've ever been 'driven bonkers' by a beat at that game, you should try this new thing, its what all the cool kids are doing.... its something called LAYING DOWN BOTTOM SET TO A RE-RERAISE ON 4TH, idiot.

I also dont know where you're coming from telling me I dont know what I'm talking about in limit holdem... you've never played with me, Ive never told you any of my strategies or theories, and the only part of my game you even know a tiny bit about is that I know my statistics.

(This just occurred to me, you might be dumb enough to think that earlier i was suggesting folding AA in a family pot because you only have a 33% shot at winning. This isnt what I meant you jackass, I was just describing what a crapshoot low limit is)

I think the civilized thing here would be to kick you in the balls and keep you out of the gene pool, but I'll settle for a nice fuck you, you shitty ignorant bastard.


sincerely,
-jB

[Talking Poker]

You girls are funny.

[2Tone]

In an effort to bring some sanity back to this thread ...


"Buddy, if you are complaining about beats in limit holdem, then you would blow your mind in omaha. O8 would drive you completely bonkers."

I'll go on record as saying Omaha in general drives me completely bonkers every hand. I have a handle on HL, at least enough to do alright at the lower limits and in the great fish tank that is Party. But Omaha I can't even begin to get a handle on. Every hand seems like a potential monster, though obviously this is not the case. Do you all find you choose a game to specialize in, or are you working on mastering both?

[johnbaker]

I always do everything possible to improve all of my poker games, not just holdem and omaha. If you're a good holdem player, dont assume you know what you're doing in omaha. Draws are what O8B is all about, since you basically have 6 possible holdem hands combined in one. You really have to know your math to be good at O8B, and you have to be even better at figuring out odds on the fly in PLO, where you have to deal with pot odds every single time you enter a pot. I might write an article about omaha for this site, but for now only one about PLO or O8B, not both. First person to say which they want to hear about will get their choice, if i get some nice comments about that article then i'll write an article about the other form of omaha.

-jB

[Talking Poker]

O8B.

[johnbaker]

omaha hi/lo it is, ill email you the article around sunday afternoon or somewhere around there. probably 2 pages or so

-jB

[GeoffM]

O8B is all about the nuts. People will often suck out in lower limit games. Swings are generally much higher. I find that you have to be even more selective with your starting hands because if you are playing a weak starting hand, chances are you are going to catch at least a piece of the pot and it could actually cost you a lot of money to catch a piece of the flop, because unless they are the nuts, you're in trouble. I will generally only play A2, A3 with good support, or any 3 wheel cards other than 345. Otherwise, I am usually folding unless I have 4 high cards over 9, AA, or A x suited with a pair.

[Aequitas58]

I like LHE, NLHE, and Stud H/L 8B.

I never thought I would play stud, but I came in contact w/ someone who is disgusting at Stud HL and he basically game me a free lesson. Then I played a Stars Stud HL freeroll: 6000 entrants... I busted out 26th.

It's a good game.