And this is what makes Pokerstars "PokerStars"

[Talking Poker]

I dunno. But it's a lot longer than one hand, that's for sure.

Maybe for you. My goal in tourneys is to win the tourney. Please note that those are two very different things. Shove your chips in with the best hand enough and you'll get knocked out eventually. I promise you that.

Agreed. I would have probably folded the TT too, but I definitely don't hate the call as much as you do.

This is where we have to agree to disagree. You think KK should beat TT 100% of the time, and I think it should beat it exactly as much as the math dictates that it should. You seem to think you should never take a bad beat for some reason, and I am smart enough to know they are a part of the game. Suck it up and move on.

Please explain this to me. Seriously, show me how you could ever have the math to call with 93 here.

[Penguinfan]

Based on the woulda, coulda, shoulda math earlier and the fact there was 2780 chips in the pot and he only had to call 1255 he was getting better than 2-1 on his money and 3-9 is only a 2-1 dog against AK, so the call with 3-9 is correct.

What the math leaves out is you should try to put your opponent on some sort of range of hands, while I was playing my big hands very agressive I was not in all that many pots so rags should be out of the question.

KK vs 10 10 all in pre flop is a bad beat and thats the title of this part of the forum, right?

[JDMcNugent7]

u sure sound alot like matusow and that nice little quote u got as ur sig. lately.

[Talking Poker]

In my example, I put the opponent (you) on a range of possible hands. In yiur example, you are saying that you are 100% sure that the opponent had AK, which is obviously incorrect. So I don't see how we are comparing apples to apples here.