Ivey's on Full Tilt right now

Robbr25 · #1 11-14-05, 12:36 AM

He beat jacksSr on his all in.
jacksSr had K3o preflop,
he raised Phil a normal 3XBB Raise
Phil raised 3X that
jacksSr went all in
Phil had AA
Looks fishy to me.

Robbr25 · #2 11-14-05, 12:39 AM

Check this hand out:

FullTiltPoker Game #291104197: Table Gardenia - $50/$100 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:38:12 ET - 2005/11/14
Seat 2: TOEY B ($3,687.50)
Seat 4: Dustin Dirksen ($15,009)
Seat 5: Phil Ivey ($61,379.50)
Seat 6: vastu ($2,053.10), is sitting out
Seat 9: JackSJr ($8,100)
TOEY B posts the small blind of $50
Dustin Dirksen posts the big blind of $100
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
rjb333 (Observer): STRUNG OUT EXILE IN OBLIVION
Phil Ivey raises to $350
JackSJr raises to $1,200
TOEY B folds
Dustin Dirksen folds
TilterChrisG (Support): I would remind all observers that soliciting players for funds will result in chat privileges being revoked.
Phil Ivey calls $850
*** FLOP *** [9c 3c 4c]
Phil Ivey checks
JackSJr bets $2,550
usctrunks (Observer): yah
FCBarca (Observer): Oh, sorry TilterChrisG, didn't know.
Phil Ivey raises to $10,200
JackSJr calls $4,350, and is all in
Phil Ivey shows [Ac 9d]
Ekey (Observer): get em chris
JackSJr shows [8c 8d]
Uncalled bet of $3,300 returned to Phil Ivey
JackSJr: lol
*** TURN *** [9c 3c 4c] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [9c 3c 4c 3d] [Ah]
badbeatnik (Observer): omg
Phil Ivey shows two pair, Aces and Nines
JackSJr shows two pair, Eights and Threes
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($16,348) with two pair, Aces and Nines
The Primitarian (Observer): nice
cadillackid (Observer): WOW
Larry Jackson (Observer): dominated
JackSJr: what a shocker
JackSJr is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16,350 | Rake $2
Board: [9c 3c 4c 3d Ah]
Seat 2: TOEY B (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Dustin Dirksen (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Phil Ivey showed [Ac 9d] and won ($16,348) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 6: vastu is sitting out
Seat 9: JackSJr (button) showed [8c 8d] and lost with two pair, Eights and Threes

Talking Poker · #3 11-14-05, 12:46 AM

The most interesting part of this, IMO:

See that, EaglesPlaya? Give it up, dude.

Talking Poker · #4 11-14-05, 12:45 AM

What? Should he have folded the AA???

Robbr25 · #5 11-14-05, 01:07 AM

Like the site is rigged. Maybe not just saying K3 overplayed hand just a bit.

Robbr25 · #6 11-14-05, 01:10 AM

Phil left with only $50K lol
Yeah only $50K like that is a small amount.
He was up to $71 from what I saw. Maybe a bit higher.
Someone said he started with $8K

Tony Cheval · #7 11-14-05, 01:17 AM

For you and me, no. For Phil Ivey....kiiiinda.

Talking Poker · #8 11-14-05, 01:49 AM

Thanks Reel Deal!

Because you posted this thread, I fired up FT... watched a few hands of Ivey and got inspired to paly some NL cash game for the first time in a long time. Sat at two 2/4 tables and nearly won back all my tourney entry fees from earlier today.

Also saw the bdawg at one of the tables. You like my little check raise there, bdiggitydawg? I had TP, figured it was good, and wanted the guy sitting between us to go away for sure.

And then I graciously folded my AQ overcards and flush draw to you a bit later when you bet that Jack high all diamond flop hard...

Reel Deal · #9 11-14-05, 09:44 AM

That's funny... I did the same thing. Actually had one of my better sessions on FT, no bad beats and no donkey calls by yours truly.

Talking Poker · #10 11-14-05, 12:43 PM

What in the world from this hand makes you think the site is rigged? That a big name player was dealt AA? Or that the K3 didn't suck out?

Sorry, but I can't help find it amusing that no matter who had the AA here and who had the K3 and how the betting went down and who ended up winning the pot, SOMEONE always thinks the mite must be "rigged." God forbid it's just, you know.... poker.

I would expect (and still disagree with) that sort of comment if Phil had the K3 and won the hand, but by AA holding up???

People are funny.

Robbr25 · #11 11-14-05, 06:13 PM

Yes people are funny playing K3o.
Also, by rigged I also mean that the guy with K3o could be a plant.
Just seems like a pretty strange play with K3o.

Talking Poker · #12 11-14-05, 07:34 PM

Seems like a really bad idea to have a "plant" playing like that. Seems a lot more liekly to me that this was what I like to call a "bluff." PHil had probably been pushing him around, and he though his reraise was weak so he pushed in to put him to the test. Phil happened to have a moster and called. It was bad timing - an ill timed bluff. That's all. It's just part of the game.

People are always so quick to call shenanigans when they see something that look funny, like ultra aggressive play. In Heads Up, I'm not sure there is anything I could question, short of someone CALLING a huge all in with 5 high (and winning) or something along those lines.

eddo31 · #13 11-14-05, 07:43 PM

i dont think that guy is a plant at all. from the times that i have seen him play, he has done pretty damn well in high stakes HU limit holdem. i cant say anything about his abilities at no limit, but i dont see anything that is that fishy in hi splay here.

he sensed weakness, and pushed. he ran into a legit hand, it happens all the time. especially in a shorthanded game, you are going to see moves like this.

from the play that i have seen from him, he is a good player. i havent seen enough to say that he is an expert, or that he is world class, but he has absolutely held his own playing HU against both Ivey and D'Agostino, taking a good chunk of change from both of them.

anyways, if the site was using plants, wouldnt they have those players lose to the pros? it would just build the mystique of the pros, which is why so many people go to the site anyways. i know that jacksjr lost this hand, but overall i think he is doing pretty well against the pros.