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Old 10-27-05, 10:24 PM
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I consider a bad beat losing when you have the best hand by a good margin.
In this case, he only had 4 outs or running KK.
On the river he just had the 4 outs.
I consider it slow playing because I called his preflop raise and checked to him on the flop with the intention of trying to get him all in.
Which is exactly what happened, but he just hit his river card.
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A bad beat is when a substantial underdog - WHEN THE MONEY GOES IN - ends up winning the hand.

It has nothing to do with how one plays the hand, who should and shouldn't be in there, etc.
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you all make valid points, I stand corrected.
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So how bad of a % favorite do you need to be to call it a bad beat?
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Sir, Its hard to say.... if someone is on an up and down straight or flush draw (8 or 9 outs) its shitty, but not a bad beat. If someone is on a gutshot (4 outs) its usually called a bad beat..... if someone is in after the flop with 2 overs (6 outs) its kind of border (i jus consider it a suckout not a bad beat if that makes any sense) So I'd say 4 outs would be the approx. line, which after the flop is 16% (or less obviously) if Im correct?

What do others think?
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