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Old 11-07-04, 08:30 AM
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Exactly!! That's the point of this thread and something I have really been looking at in my own game. No secret I have admitted to being a losing player who is creeping up on even to profitable, and have stretches of winnings sessions, it just seems that this may be the point that I, and maybe others are missing, that your game really is this fragile, one pot, and it doesn't need to be a monster, can make you or break you on the long run. If this is true for even half the sessions I could claim that over this year it was only 20-25 pots (or river cards for that matter) that are keeping me below the glass ceiling, just something to ponder.
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I'm not sure that is what I conclude from this thread. I think everyone is agreeing that two or three (at least in limit, though it certainly could be 1 in NL) pots make the difference between a winning or losing session. But that's for that session only. I don't think a one pot -- even a monster - is going to make a tremendous difference in the long run. I guess it all depends on how long a run we are talking about here. But I'm confident that if I make the right decisions in regards to pot odds, being aggressive, choosing my spots, etc., I'm going to win more than my fair share of those big hands. Some I'll win, some I'll lose. But in the long run -- weeks, months, years -- I'll be ahead as a result of making better decisions than my opponents. And that's not a matter of getting lucky in one pot.

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Old 11-07-04, 04:08 PM
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Absolutely 1 or 2 pots can make the night. Especially if you have been playing extremely tight all night, then when you catch a big pot off a loose player, bam, there is your night. Donating very little to most pots and then hitting a big pot or 2 is a huge change of fortune, IMO.
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I think they key here is to not make 2 or 3 big mistakes in a given night, and instead, capitalize on the 2-3 big mistakes made by your opponents.

The former can cost you a lot of money, where the latter can earn you a lot of money.

In my example hand from last night, yes, I ended up on the losing end of things, but I played it beautifully, getting $1400 into a pot when I was something like a 90% favorite. Short term, anything can happen, but if and when I put myself in that situation enough over time, I'll come out way ahead for sure.
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Old 11-07-04, 09:04 PM
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yeah, one or two pots, no matter if it is nl or limit, can make all the difference in the world.

about a month ago in vegas, i ended my whoel trip down about 30 bucks (well, 30 at the poker tables, down a little bit more as a whole), and it basically all came down to a couple of pots in my final session.

in the same vein of thought, making one or two good laydowns per session can save you a ton as well. it isnt always about the pots that you win, sometimes it is also about getting away from hands as well.
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Old 11-08-04, 03:52 PM
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Yeap, I usually wait for one and then I am a happy camper. I will play very tight for the rest of the night to just get smaller ones. Ofcouse it also works the other way. When I loose a big pot, I usually log off cause I know it gets to me and I can make mistakes, I do not go and try to recup my money, or the money that was once mine.
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Old 11-09-04, 10:19 AM
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Definately.

The other night I was playing 4-8 B&M and I flopped a full house and lost.
I went home with a profit of $100 instead of $300.

This difference is ever bigger in tournament play. 1 hand can be the difference between 50th and maybe 1st!

It's also true in other things such as sports (there's alot of sports bettors on this forum who know only too well). You watch a football or basketball game.. a fumble here or a missed free throw there can make all the difference.

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