You are a bad player. Trust me on this.

[GeoffM]

I agree whole-heartedly with what PenguinFan said regarding the tournaments.

I'll tell you guys right now, that tournament I was in last night, if I sat down with these guys and played a limit tourney with say set blinds of $0.25/0.50 or whatever and we all sat down with $100, then I guarantee I am paying $100 rake and taking the other $900 off the table. The fact all the other donkeys at the table were just giving each other their chips led to my downfall, because while I did have a great hand when I busted (I held A357, flop came 46K), I was screwed. The donkey I referred to above that ended up being chip leader had A6710, and was calling me with a pair of sixes. Looking at my hand, I had the huge wrap with a very good low draw that would have held up had any low card hit. Insteadh, the jackass spikes a 10 on the turn and a 9 comes on the river and he takes a huge pot while I almost punch my computer. You guys, I see you a lot of times posting bad beats when you had 10-12 outs, but unless I've gone insane, I knew in this hand I needed any 8, 7, 5, 3, 2 for the scoop and any A would have given me at least half. Not including this bastards hand, I had 17 outs AFTER the flop at the scoop and 20 outs to at least half the pot. This is after the flop. What would that make me, about a 70% favorite to hit one of these on either the turn or river?

I know online poker is more than just luck, but sometimes those MASSIVE draws just don't hit. The only reason I get pissed is because it seems all-too-often lately some guy will be a huge dog to me and low-and-behold, he somehow catches the "Miracle on 34th Street" and takes the pot. I don't mean to sound like Helmuth when I say "If there was no luck in poker I'd win every tourney", because noone is good enough to win every tourney, but I just think that in general a lot of times odds don't necessarily hold up. I can't remember how many times in the last 2 weeks my 20+ outers have not hit (and yes, in O8 it is very common to have 20+ outers). I can guarantee however that they haven't been hitting at the 70% or whatever clip that they should be.

Mind you, I guess I shouldn't bitch too much, since I am in the green (or black, or whatever), but sometimes I just start to think what might have been had this or that not happened.

[Penguinfan]

Geoff, funny you should bring up Omaha Hi/lo, I was playing earlier in a $25 PLO ring game and one hand that sticks out (for reasons I probably shouldn't mention) is when I holding ATJ8 in the BB and flop is AAT, I slow play it, turn is 6 if I remember right and I bet the pot, get called, the river is a 8 so I go from nut full to nut fuller (?) and push the pot again, get called by someone with a naked ace in his hand, BUT we split because he has like 90th best low hand.

I got him to make a horrible call based on the way I played a previous hand and still had to split it, that one sucked.

Though I am sure he doesn't remember it that way and probably thinks he played it just fine.

[GeoffM]

Got a hand history for me?

I've for the most part managed to stay away from chopping pots in PL for some reason. However, as per the above mentioned scenario I found myself it, I can also often lose a lot of bets making the correct mathematical call.

Give me some more details on the hand. How many callers pre-flop? Blinds? Pot size post-flop?