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Old 07-28-05, 09:15 PM
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i dunno i just dont see the KK folding in this situation, its just to big of a laydown to make when he could have just found a hand like QQ and felt like he could lay that down into that big of a pot

he didnt basically say hes folding anything less than AA he is just asking for a good hand in this situation, which he gets but he was obviously good enough to ditch the queens
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Old 07-28-05, 09:19 PM
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I guess this is just hypothetical, but in that specific situation, JJ was all-in
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Old 07-28-05, 09:22 PM
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If I remember correctly, JJ was not all in, he made a reraise large enough to put the original reraiser (Lindgren) all in, but did not declare "all in" himself.

At least Im pretty sure
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Old 07-28-05, 09:28 PM
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well in that case if lindgren was going to be shortstacked if he folded then i say theres no way he folds, i thought lindgren had the guy with JJ covered tho because i thought lindgren knocked out the guy with JJ that hand but i wasnt payin close attention
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Old 07-28-05, 09:32 PM
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I dont remember how large a reraise it was to put lindgren all in, I know it was definately more than double his original raise which was 120,000 if I remember.
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Old 07-28-05, 10:21 PM
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no way lindgren was laying down KK there... he was short stacked and i guarantee he calls.
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Not a bad point Junyun. Because of his situation he may have been forced to call, not just was the pot large with everyone elses bets in there but he was short stacked and folding KK is tough to do. Frangos is a poker player, so he has balls, it would be up to lindgren to make a read at this point.

On the other hand, lindgren would think frangos would have to be stupid putting me all in in my situation WITHOUT the rockets. THen again frangos could WANT him to think that and that would be the move he was making. Im not sure how tight a player frangos is (relatively i mean), so i dunno. Sounds like fun poker though.

In short zybomb, i would like to see that situation for real to see what happens. If you ran the simulation a couple times i think it would end up going back and forth between KK folding and holding, but more often than not holding.
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