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Old 07-28-05, 08:11 PM
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i doubt KK folds in that position the JJ might but i doubt the kings will lay down there
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Old 07-28-05, 08:14 PM
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Not saying that I disagree with you, or that I agree either....but keep in mind Frangos basically just told the whole table if I get anything besides AA im folding here. And he doesnt fold, he goes all in... I dunno if you could have a clearer image of an exact hand than in this situation (even though here it was using that knowledge to try to be deceiving)

Also, underquestionably JJ folds, the question is KK
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Old 07-28-05, 08:15 PM
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i dunno i just dont see the KK folding in this situation, its just to big of a laydown to make when he could have just found a hand like QQ and felt like he could lay that down into that big of a pot

he didnt basically say hes folding anything less than AA he is just asking for a good hand in this situation, which he gets but he was obviously good enough to ditch the queens
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Old 07-28-05, 08:19 PM
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I guess this is just hypothetical, but in that specific situation, JJ was all-in
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Old 07-28-05, 08:22 PM
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If I remember correctly, JJ was not all in, he made a reraise large enough to put the original reraiser (Lindgren) all in, but did not declare "all in" himself.

At least Im pretty sure
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Old 07-28-05, 08:28 PM
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well in that case if lindgren was going to be shortstacked if he folded then i say theres no way he folds, i thought lindgren had the guy with JJ covered tho because i thought lindgren knocked out the guy with JJ that hand but i wasnt payin close attention
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Old 07-28-05, 08:32 PM
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I dont remember how large a reraise it was to put lindgren all in, I know it was definately more than double his original raise which was 120,000 if I remember.
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