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Old 07-23-05, 02:13 PM
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How confident would you have been in this read if you actually had ANYTHING after the flop (say JJ)?
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Old 07-23-05, 02:20 PM
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he would have called
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Old 07-23-05, 02:44 PM
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With that limit of poker I wouldn't even attempt reads. The guy went all in with something you cant buy 2 scoops of ice cream with.
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Old 07-23-05, 03:31 PM
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Baskin Robbins, Tuesday 2 Scoops for........ ah nevermind

Bet size is the most reliable tell (and as you know ur players more and more, how much they bet when they have certain hands, TP, Set,flush/straight draw etc) do they check bet big bet small, check raise etc.

There are other times where for some reason a hand just sticks out in your head and you cant really say why....but you have to go with it

Like the time I was playing a home game tourny, which was down to 4 people. Im the short stack, but not *that* short. The SB is the chip leader. UTG folds, and I raise with A3, the SB calls and the BB folds.Flop comes 9,3,5 i believe. First to act, he puts in an overbet which is equal to a little more than half my stack (thus putting me to a decision for all my chips) Immediately I have him put on A10, which has him drawing to a 3 outer. With only bottom pair, I quickly tell him to put in another (whatever I had left) he kind of shakes his head and replies I dont even know if I want to -- he obviously makes the call though.......he flips over A7 (basically the same thing) Really sucked when a 7 came on the river and knocked me out though.........

Sometimes you have a feeling and need to go with it -- i wouldnt put too much enphasis on this though. Id concentrate more on extracting the most moneyw hen you have the best hand, and losing the least when you dont
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hell yea call big time, no seriously JJ would be a easy fold also. The better quesiton would be say I have KQ would I still make this laydown. Yes I would I was pretty positive he had the AQ so no way I was calling with just 3 outs.
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Old 07-23-05, 03:35 PM
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Based on the play so far, what made you put him on only AQ?
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his bet on the flop, looked to me like he was protecting his hand. Like he was giving up and saying well if you got a set or 2 pair so be it. As soon as he made the bet I was like AQ, that is all he could have, what other hand could he have but that . He flop a set or 2 pair, no way not with that overbet. Looked to me like he knew his hand was probolly vulnerable and wanted to get the money in now.
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In that case would he not of played QJ the same way?
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Old 07-23-05, 03:52 PM
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I dont think so, or at least I wouldnt. QJ too weak in my opinion to make that kinda raise, or even to call my raise preflop with. I might want to make a smaller bet with QJ, one that I could still get away from if I got re-raised. Basicly his bet told me " I Probolly have the best hand, you gonna have to pay to outdraw me"
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do you realize your playing .05/.10 and that he would prolly make the same play with QJ.
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First keep in mind you are play .05/.10, calling a raise with QJs isnt out of the question. Next when they hit their TP you said you thought he had AQ because " Wouldnt QJ fall in this same catagory, (or even KQ) Im just saying to lay down KQ here wouldnt be automatic like you are making it out to be. I can see him making this bet on a draw, with any pair, or any piece of the flop all of which youd be ahead with. I could also see him hitting a big hand and wanting you to go through this exact thinking and maybe youd be in big trouble

Not taking away from your read -- it was a good one, I belivee based on the action and overall read on the player, he could of made that bet with a variety of hands, not just AQ -- to lay down AK is pretty obvious in that situation, but had you had KQ, Id think youd be ahead more than you were behind
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Old 07-23-05, 04:09 PM
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no im actully enjoying this little chat we are having, I love when you answer threads. I see you're point that he could make that play with some other hands. Guess it was just gut feeling I had, agree these players are pretty bad but this one in paticular wasnt playing that bad.

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Old 07-23-05, 04:32 PM
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brian you are so full of shit

you would have called with TT, JJ, KQ, QJ .. and he could also be making the same move with that same range of hands.
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