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07-01-05, 03:20 PM
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well regardless of how squeeky tight sklansky plays this (and i'm really hoping his answer isn't fold)... if i'm last to act i'm obviously calling because theres nothing else i can do besides fold or call and i'm not folding. (that is, assuming nobody else called -- because this brings a whole new plethora of problems)
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07-01-05, 05:25 PM
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If there is no one left to act behind me, raising and calling are the same thing. Based on what you have written, I get the feleing Sklansky is going to sugest otherwise, but this is a no-brainer call, IMO.
Sklansky might be thinking this guy must have a monster to move in in early position (I'll assume that too) on the bubble, but Sklansky is used to palying with talented players... NOT the average players we see online. Folding here may be the correct play at the final table of the WSOP (I'd still call), but no way is it correct in your typical online MTT. |
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07-01-05, 06:33 PM
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I think the answer from Sklansky is to fold. Basically, you are the big stack at your table and have to opportunity to earn more chips by bullying that table. If you knock this player out, you're at the final table, but may have lost the opportunity to gain more chips off your opponents at your present table.
But I still think it should depend on the blinds, the amount of the short stack and your chip stack relative to everyone else. If you know you're the chip leader of both tables left...should be to raise. If you're like 3 or 4th in chips overall, and can outplay the other players, it may be more advantagous to fold. I know it sounds stupid, but I'm pretty sure that's what Sklansky will say. |
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07-01-05, 06:38 PM
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I don't think that sounds stupid at all. I think it's brilliant and I hate that I didn't think of that.
I'm changing my response. I won't say it's a definite fold, but I will say there is more to consider than I had been considering. |
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07-01-05, 08:34 PM
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If you fold QQ in the big stack to a short stacks all in you are playing too tight PERIOD. There is no justification whatsoever you can tell me that folding is the correct option.....none whatsoever. And keep in mind this isn't an early position raise, its simply a raise ahead of you...you dunno what position they are. QQ is behind 2 hands AA and KK anything else is a coin flip at best (AK) otherwise an underdog..... if those arent odds you are prepared to take as a big stack to a short stack you are playing entirely too tight.
I can think of approx. 30 hands that a short stack would push with, 2 of which are ahead of you, 1 of which is a coin flip....... the other 26 of which are an underdog. Bubble or not, you can not prove to me folding is the correct option. You also dont gain any extra chips by letting this player win..... you lose their chips, its that simple, you cant think what if in the long run etc....... in the long run there are still the same amount of chips at your table. You cant be in a better spot than you are now. |
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