AA or KK very early in a multi

brokeagain · #1 10-25-04, 05:36 PM

Sure, it is easy when no one has entered the pot and the player to your right opens big, but what do you do when blinds are 15/30, A opens for 300, and B and C call before it gets to you and you have T800 and two of the players have you covered? Do you want to risk all of your chips this early knowing that if you pop all in you may get at least 2 callers? I think I like to see the flop in that spot and pop it if I get the chance. Getting all my chips in with 4-5 players seeing the flop leaves me helpless, I don't like this situation at all. I need all my chip in with AA in a HU pot. Multi Pots=AA death.

GeoffM · #2 10-25-04, 05:42 PM

Absolutely, if I'm low on chips, the more, the merrier. How often do you get a chance to triple or quadruple up with AA in your hand. Hit that third A and your good, or if the board is pure rags, again you are usually ok, especially with a lot of callers when you go all-in. If you can't play your AA with X number of callers, what can you play? You will have to assume that many of the big cards the other players are holding are in each others hands, so their number of outs is reduced.

bothecorgi · #3 10-25-04, 08:08 PM

I think its best to get your chips in heads up or with only 2 other callers if you have AA. Obviously, the odds of AA holding up go down as more people are in the pot so I think it is not a good idea to let too many people see the flop.

ChipFish · #4 10-25-04, 08:24 PM

Hypothetical situation for you all:

World Series of Poker 2005.
First Hand:
Player ahead of you goes all-in
You look down to see you have A-A.
Do you call?

I say no.
I'll tell you why after I get 3 responses.

BlibbityBlabbity · #5 10-25-04, 08:34 PM

Only if it was Phil Helmuth who went all in. What fun it would be to see him cry, first out of the tourney

ChipFish · #6 10-25-04, 08:35 PM

LMAO!

OK Part marks for that one. But still wrong in my opinion.

eddo31 · #7 10-25-04, 11:24 PM

yes, you push it in on the firsthand of the tourney with AA if someone already went all in in front of you.

if this isnt your automatic response, i dont think that you belong in the tourney. the worst situation for you could be that the person in front of you has a hand like T9s. in that case you are still better than 3-1 to win the hand (according to twodimes.net). but more likely, you are up against KK, QQ. in this case you are 4-1 to win. in my opinion, you have to take risks like that in a tourney in order to move on.

also, by going all in here, you are probably shutting down the action, and it will be heads up. very unlikely that anyone else enters the pot behind you, and that is also in your favor. playingthe pot heads up is much better than playing a family pot.