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06-05-08, 10:28 AM
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- The assumption that the BB should fold everything but AA vs (utg shove+sb shove) does not make sense.
- The only way this can even be remotely correct is if it's a satellite type situation, where the payouts for first and second are basically equal and third pays very small. - In fact, I believe the range the BB calls with is pretty wide. If he's already in second in chips - the only real bad result is if utg wins main pot, and chip leader wins side pot. Everything else is fine. The utg shove can be any two cards, which means his chance of the worse case scenerio happening to be relatively small. - I have not used a ICM calculator, but I'm certain the calling range is significantly more than AA...especially when you're working with less than 5bbs. Last edited by Windbreaker; 06-05-08 at 10:46 AM. |
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06-05-08, 07:31 PM
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You're right. I was confusing this with a different situation: where the stacks are more like 7, 4.5, 2 and folding gives the 2nd stack a better chance of finishing 1st (even then, he probably should call with at least QQ+, AK. In this situation, I would think the 2nd stack calls both with maybe 20% of hands. I know there are some situatiions where ICM says only call with AA, but I forget what they are.
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