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02-09-08, 10:10 AM
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Trust me, they care very much. Its just that the IRS doesn't *create* the rules. They just enforce those that already exist. Congress makes the rules, and they have had no interest in clarifying the existing vague rules for a few reasons.
1.) they're a bunch of idiots 2.) they only care about posturing about "saving" us from those evil online gambling sites to make themselves look good. 3.) The U.S. tax code is only comprehensible to those few lawyers and accountants who make it their life's work to understand it. Clearly, the only logical thing to do is to repeal Amendment XVI      
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02-09-08, 12:42 PM
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No taxes over here in britain on any gambling wins so we do not have this problem
Now can somebody explain to me how the usa can tax you on something they made illegal |
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02-09-08, 01:26 PM
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1. It's not illegal.
2. You are required by law to report all of your income, regardless of how you earned it. Lots of big-time gangsters have gone down for tax evasion, because that was the easiest way to bust them - Al Capone comes to mind, but I could be remembering wrong. |
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02-09-08, 01:30 PM
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sorry i worded that wrong is it not illegal for usa citizens to transfer cash onto a poker site.I thaught that was why party poker had to shut to usa citizens
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02-09-08, 01:41 PM
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It's "illegal" (loose definition) for the BANK to process the transfer. Party shut down U.S. play because they are a public company and were worried about how it would look if they were doing anything that could even be misconstrued by the general public as illegal... which obviously happens all the time. I mean, you are a poker player and don't fully understand the law (nothing wrong with that, btw - just saying)... so it only stands to reason that the average non-player would also assume "Online gambling is illegal in the US." At least that's how the people I know and meet seem to think.
Still a horrible decision by Party, IMO, but whatever. Their stock price tanked when they made the move, so goody for them. |
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02-09-08, 02:25 PM
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Well i suppose we are lucky over here our government has sense and has acually regulated the online poker industry.I know why party shut down to usa citizens its lawyers and the city of london advised them that being a listed company they could be laying themselfes open to huge fines until the law in usa was acually clarified.The intresting part of all this is now how the usa is facing huge fines from wto for its stance about online poker.
Another point of intrest our government has a white list of online poker companys that are allowed to advertise on uk television 3 companys not on that list are pokerstars ub and ap three of the biggest sites.They all have 1 thing in common they are all regulated by the kahuna indians [prob spelt wrong] our government does not think there regulations are strong enough and offer very little protection to the people playing on the sites |
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02-09-08, 05:11 PM
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That is interesting. I'm actually a little bit surprised to see Stars on that list with the other two operations.
As for the "huge fines" the US is facing from the WTO, unfortunately, that didn't really work out the way any of us hoped it would. They ended up getting off for peanuts. I don't know how the US got away with it (I can certainly speculate), but it's really disappointing. Let's see if I can find a link or you somewhere. OK, here ya go: Freaking $21 million a year. They were looking for $3.4 billion. Ridiculous. 
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