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Old 02-06-08, 02:06 AM
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Do you think I need to claim anything i cashed out, very small amounts? (<$500)
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Old 02-06-08, 02:19 AM
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If you've made any money at all playing poker, you are legally obligated to claim it on your taxes. The amount of the cashouts do not matter.
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Old 02-06-08, 03:01 AM
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What if you were a losing player? Are you still obligated to report your wins and losses and thus be taxed on your winnings and have your losses be able to be written off?

If so thats ridiculous btw
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Old 02-06-08, 07:54 AM
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one session = calendar day for me. Based on my understanding of the tax code and how it applies to internet players, which I have tried my best to figure out, this is a reasonable definition.
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Old 02-06-08, 08:51 AM
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OK. Here's the naked truth.

Let's say you're a young single guy who does not own a home, thus has no mortgage interest to deduct so you normally take the standard deduction. ($5,350.00 this year, I think)

Say last year you netted -$500 based upon $8,000 in winning sessions and $8,500 in losing sessions.

OK, so $8,000 goes on page 1 of form 1040 as *other income*. Now, to deduct you losses you MUST itemize deductions, so on schedule A, you enter $8,000 for *gambling losses* (can't deduct losses in excess of wins). Now if you do not have a ton of medical expenses, you're not going to find much more in other deductions - state and local taxes paid is one, medical is probably out since those are in excess of (I think 2.5% of your AGI and you just inflated your AGI by $8,000), so lets say you have a total of $10,000 in deductions.

Your additional deductions now that you've lost the Standard Deduction are $4,650, but your additional income is $8,000.

Thus you are going to pay taxes on $3,350 of additional (by non-existant) income.

As I've said before, I understand the IRS' logic. This is based on a B&M world, where the IRS understood that the average casual gambler will not claim the $500 he/she wins at a casino on vacation either through ignorance or a "who cares" they can't catch me" attitude, and the truth is, the IRS does not have the resources to chase that money. So they based the algorithm on the concept that they soak the people who a) make enough from gambling that they know there's a good chance of getting audited, or b) know the law and are (I'll be kind here) are honest to a fault.

One last point. This is by far not the only example of what is fucked up about the US tax code.
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Old 02-06-08, 09:49 AM
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I'm sure there has been a thread EVERY year that I've been on the board. I'm almost sure this question, as well as every other conceivable question was answered in them.

Wish we could get someone TP to go back and pull them all up.

And btw, Zy, the answer is yes and it is ridiculous.
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Old 02-06-08, 11:09 AM
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I spent about 60k last year without a job, pretty sure I'm gonna get audited when the only income I report is interest earned on my savings accounts (~$600).
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Old 02-06-08, 12:38 PM
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I think you're safe....just as long as there's no paper trail with the hookers and blow.

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