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01-30-08, 03:58 PM
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At least I resucked out with my flopped two pair into a rivered boat against the other douche I was playing after he hit his gutshot on the turn (he flopped overcards + gutshot + BD flush draw). And now I'm sitting there waiting, and no one is playing me. |
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01-30-08, 04:28 PM
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The HU sng pro i lived with in vegas said 8-10% ROI is sustainable if you are good. Think anyone good at poker though would play cash games since winrates are a lot more, more games run, skill edge is a lot greater.
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01-30-08, 04:36 PM
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I also can't grasp how someone can play enough HU tables at a time to duplicate the same hourly rate they'd get playing at full table SNGs. ROI for the best players at the higher buy-ins is the same.
Maybe you can do it playing continuous rather than sets, I dunno. 
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01-30-08, 05:12 PM
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Don't forget that HU SNGs are generally much faster than full table SNGs, so while you may not play as many at a time, you can play more per hour.
I haven't even dabbled with Turbos yet (well, I did a very little bit in the beginning but hated them). |
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01-30-08, 08:03 PM
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My friend adrian plays exclusively HU SNGs at the highest levels on stars ($1100, $2200, $5500) and finished 2nd on the leaderboard last year -- I'll ask him what his % is and let you guys know
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01-30-08, 09:17 PM
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His overall ROI is 9% -- although it is lower at the $5500 levels (closer to 6%) and higher at the $1100 level (closer to 12%) As far as win % I dunno.
He's currently 3rd on the leaderboard for this year
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01-30-08, 05:11 PM
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I have trouble comparing cash game win rates to SNG ROIs... I guess it just comes down to the hourly rate, which really depends on how many tables you are playing simultaneously.
I can't disagree with anything you said, but I do believe that you could turn that 8-10% ROI into a ton of money if you play enough. Take this guy (livb112 on Full Tilt), for example, who I found yesterday... He's up almost $120k YTD (yes, 30 days) in HU SNGs exclusively. That's not too shabby. His lifetime ROI is mere 6%, but he's turned that into a $700k profit (yes, PROFIT - not total winnings like the MTT guys like to report) through about 16k matches. I have no idea how much he plays, but I would think a full time grinder could get in 100 per day easily enough, meaning this is well under one year's worth of work. Yes, he's playing at very high levels now, but he hasn't been the whole time, of course. And those figures aren't including RB (or other bonuses), which by my math adds almost 1.5% to your ROI (27% of 5%). |
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