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01-29-08, 11:28 AM
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This my new favorite past time here at work. Fire up Pokerstars and watch a 5/10 or a 25/50. I have 3 monitors setup here at work so I usually just leave PS up on one of them.
Just an observation - I am continuously witnessing min buyers at these levels donk it all off rather quickly. It is pretty sick at the 25/50 table. Not that I'm judging them, just an observation. This leads me to think that regular players at these levels welcome it. I keep waiting to see a TPF member screen name pop up there.
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01-30-08, 08:41 PM
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Short stacking is most effective in a game of PLO. You're basically never really dominated preflop. So you will often get better than pot odds when you are all in.
Eg. If you're in the BB, and it's been raised preflop with multiple callers. You can push with a huge range and still should have the proper pot odds in the hand. Assuming you have a min buy in and the rest of the table are deep. Last edited by Windbreaker; 01-30-08 at 08:45 PM. |
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#3
01-30-08, 08:45 PM
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I know why shortstacking PLO is probably better than NLHE right now, but that is most definitely not the reason why. If anything, that would be a detrimental effect of shortstacking PLO since your preflop edge isn't as great as in NLHE.
The main reason why shortstacking is effective, at least in the way I see it, is that it takes advantages of people playing too loosely against someone with 20bbs behind them. Basically, people just play as if everyone had 100BBs+, wherein this lies the profit for the 20bb stack. |
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01-30-08, 09:01 PM
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I have to go back and re-check the articles (i think it was a series of three of them), but i believe that was part of what he was talking about. With your short stack (i.e. 20bb) you are basically forcing the others to play with that stack against you. But they do not adjust/think like that.
I think there was also some stuff in there about how you can control the math/pot odds to give you an edge with your short stack. But I think that dealt more with a looser game (more loose money in the pot). It was interesting reading if anyone gets a chance. Not sure if its in the online version |
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01-30-08, 09:07 PM
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In Rolf Slotboom's PLO book, he talks about shortstacking. The key point he made is being sure to sit with a known LAG on your right.
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01-30-08, 10:20 PM
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I believe it's the opposite... a known LAG to your LEFT... because (i havent read the book but im familiar with the PLO short stacking concept so Im assuming this is it) the point is to limp have a LAG raise, squeeze in a few calls and then pot reraise to the point where you're all in on the flop when you bet.... thus you're always getting +EV on your hand and can never be outplayed/pushed off a pot
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01-31-08, 01:01 AM
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about the players in the first post, they may be veiwing the situation as " i have this much at risk, so should he" or thinking that the guy is going to hit and run...
as far as live play, i always buy in 2x min, unless i am just trying to kill time, then ill buy $50 into a 5-10 limit game. the place i play uses a single $5 blind, so you can be dealt 100 hands at a full table before you bust |
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