What am I doing wrong?

[ChipFish]

OK... Here is your first lesson...
Just because you are dealt Ah-Kh does not mean you have the same hand as
Player B. who was dealt Ah-Kh in the next hand.

Example
BrianSwa is dealt Ah-Kh
player 2 is dealt Ac-As
player 3 is dealt Ad-Kc
player 4 is dealt Ks-x
player 5 is dealt .... etc.

Flop is 5c-6c-7c Turn is 10-c.

Now then.
Hand #2.
Player 2 is dealt Ah-Kh
Flop is As-3h-8h Turn is Kc


Now yes, you are dealt the same holecards... but only one of these hands is a premium hand after the flop, and the other is garbage. Learn to differentiate and you can learn other things.

[omahilo]

I think personally you need to loosen up alittle bit... gotta remember that it is limit holdem and not no limit hold em. I remember before in one of your post about only playing QQ preflop for 1 bet or something along that nature (might need to refresh me on this).

Anyways premium hands such as AA KK and QQ will usually win you a small to decent pot and lose you a huge pot. You should try playing more suited connectors in mid to late positions such as 89s, 67s, etc. you can see the flop usually for 1 bet and get away from the hand if it doesnt hit rather easily.

I will give you an example of this... I was in the BB with 35 spades and someone raises it... a few callers and I call the 1 more bet to see the flop... the flop comes 245 with 2 spades, which gives me top pair,open ended straight draw, and straight flush/flush draw. I figured I had 20 outs (I think) to win the hand and these 2 guys started betting and raising each other and then the turn brought another 5, which ended up winning me the pot.

Anyways they ended up having QQ and KK but I got to see the flop for only 1 more bet and got a awesome flop. I dont know if this is the right play or not but I do know that QQ and KK lose them a huge pot.

You just have to be able to get away from the suited connector if it doesnt hit. Im a tight player but also like to mix it up with the connectors so I dont become too predictable. It sounds like you wait for AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK, and AQ.

[BrianSwa]

thanks omahilo, I think your right about that and I thank you for your advice call me crazy but actully want to hear what Lou thinks about this and also TP.

[BrianSwa]

must of misunderstood me was talking about them calling pre-flop raises with something like 8-2. I know after flop some premiem hands lose all value like A-K with a qq2 flop of course is as good as dead. The whole post was about cards calling raises pre-flop, im to the point where I hate raising pre-flop because it dont drive anyone out.

[ChipFish]

Yes, I did miss that.

Not much you can do... except continue to raise the pot when you figure to have the best of it, sure 8-2 wins once or twice, but over the long-run........

Also, a little tip for you.... if you are continually getting 7-9 callers every hand, then perhaps it is time to start looking for the flush draws?
Start playing Ace-anything suited for 1 bet, and up to 2 bets if you get 6-9 callers. If you miss the flop, dump it. If you hit the ace, be prepared to dump it.
if you hit 2 to the flush, raise it.
if you flop the flush, check the flop, check-raise the turn or call and raise the river.

You'll miss the flop more times than not, but will get paid handsomely when it hits.
Same thing goes for connectors....

[BrianSwa]

k thanks for the tips chipfish, I really do appritiate it.

[SirFWALGMan]

It sucks. Sometimes you just have off days/week and then everything clicks. I would be careful about playing too loose. Do you have any stats on your play? Do you use Poker Tracker? If you posted some of your stats from PT we could probably do more than shoot in the dark. Also if you take a session and show some of the loses we could take a look and see if anything stands out.

How long did it take you to blow through the $100? Were you playing things besides .25/.50? cmon.. did you jump on a higher table, or try a $10 tourney just for the heck of it? Tell the truth.. heh.

Anyway.. give some more info and maybe we can help. Otherwise we can verify your playing well and things will turn around..

[Gutzz]

Yeah,

Also how many tables were you playing? 200BB is a decent roll, but if you're 4 tabling... More hands = more variance.

Personally I think you should loosen up a little. I dunno what you think tight is, but imho tight is VPIP of 16 percent or less.

I play loose limit (1/2 isn't .5/1 loose, but some tables are madeningly loose (in a good way) ), and my VPIP is around 19 at .5/1, and 17 at 1/2. So loosen up a little.

I agree with axs and kxs in loose multi pots. Although I'd only play Kxs in LP.

Also I dunno what your PFR is, but I think you might want to increase it to at least 8 percent.

Buy PT. This way you'll have a better idea (with a large sample size), what hands win money and what lose. Also you might be able to see where you're bleeding chips more easily.

Anywho, gl

[edit: Would like to add that I think you should take a few weeks off online play.. Sounds like you really don't like .25/.5, so take some time off and come back in a better mood. ]

[BrianSwa]

yes I am, not playing poker for about 3 weeks or so right now besides maybe free tornaments just for the fluck of it. Thanks again for everyones advice. Ok just downloaded the free version of pokertracker now if I can just learn to use it