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Old 05-16-07, 05:27 PM
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I can understand the first check. Other than folding equity, our hand has no reall chance of winning unless it improves. The BB has called with somthing, but checked? He is often making a mistake here by giving a free card. I'll take that card and most hearts are going to give me the best hand IMO.

The other actions after the turn hits, yeah, I am not sure about that.
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That bugged me when I read it too. It seemed to me that he advocates a REALLY passive style, way more so than the other two. I'm not really sure what the deal is with it.
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Old 05-16-07, 07:37 PM
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I guess that is why he is sarcastically refered to as "Action Dan"
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I hated this book. Really weird since the first two were amazing, especially the red zone chapters of the second book.
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Don't confuse tight with passive (or loose with aggressive). These are very different things.
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too true, too true. The play described after the flop is definitely "passive" as opposed to "tight"

side note: I was happy to see that in the last week, the auto-rate feature on PT gave me a tighter rating. I feel so special when technology praises me.
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First off, this is a tourney and fold equity is your life's blood.

He raised preflop, got a A-paired rags 2-tone flop. Why would you NOT cb this flop? Fold equity is reasonably large, you have the draw, and a call by your opponent gives you pretty specific information (your J&T outs are probably not good *or* he also has 2 hearts). If you ask me, betting this flop makes the rest of the hand easier to play.

I have to go back and check the book, Zy didn't give stack sizes or player reads, so maybe Harrington is basing his analysis on those factors. The only thing other than that I can think of is, hero's been cb'ing alot, 2 opponents and a tricky BB reduce fold equity, and he's confident the player behind him will also check, which isn't bad since the free card is good for him.
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Thanks. Of course, you are right. Playing more cash games lately has caused to see more of these differences. I don't claim to understand them all yet, but since I started out in tournaments I know what you mean by "life blood". Whenever I have won or gone deep ina tournament the number of pots won without show-down is very high, and many of these have to be attributed to CBing.
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