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Old 04-12-07, 04:31 PM
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This is going away from the original discussion I was intending on (the concept of calling down light to avoid tough situations later) but since it's turned that way I'll comment

Exactly where do you think I missed value? Bc I dont see it

With QQ after being reraised preflop, calling the flop bet, Do I lead the turn? (seems crazy) After check checks behind and a King falls on the river do I lead the river? (seems crazy)

With JJ do you bet the turn again when the Q drops?

Also do you bet the river? (I planned on check calling to induce a buff out of missed diamond draws)

If you do bet anywhere I didnt please indicate the range of hands that I beat that you expect him to call with, and how you react if you are raised (I assume you fold)
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Old 04-12-07, 05:43 PM
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On my way out for softball now, but here's my quickie reply:

First, I'm not sure who had position in Hand #1. It looks different on the flop than the turn/river.... and that's pretty important if you want me to tell you where I think you should have bet.

On Hand #2, I think you COULD have bet the turn if you were willing to play a big pot, but I'm fine if you decided to check/call instead. When he checks behind though, I think yopu might get a call from a T if you make a nice value bet. That looks like a good spot for a blocker bet, and it might look to him like you are repping a busted draw.

Playing it your way, what would you have done had he bet the river)? You're not throwing your hand away there, are you?
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Old 04-13-07, 03:57 AM
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Sorry that was a typo. The flop was correct, I was OOP that hand

No Im calling

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So now that we have the hand 1 mixed up cleared up (and you're done with softball), you can continue
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Old 04-13-07, 02:47 PM
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Hand 1 is fine then, I guess. I thought you had position, since you did for most of the hand the was it was originally written, and I thought you missed out on some value on the river.
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I plan on commenting on this thread, I just haven't found the quiet time needed to think about it. Sorry for the delay, it is an awesome OP and it is threads like this that make this place great.

Ok, I'll put away the pompoms and try to find some once the kiddies are in bed tonight.
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Old 04-16-07, 04:15 PM
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*ahem*
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I think you are on to something, and against an observant opponent I think I may try it. I'll have input after I try it for a while.
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