Internet Players in Live events.

[Tuff Luck]

Yea, they've probably played live games before but probably just home games. A big thing like that is sure to make them nervous, but yea, I do agree that the software does do a lot for you when playing online.

[johnbaker]

no offense to anyone out there, but people whose roots are in online poker suck ass in person until they take the initiative and find very tough live games to explore and improve their game

-jB

[jimmytheg]

You do realize that the 2003 World Series was Moneymaker's first live tournament right?

[Defendant]

I guess I just dont get the difference between Mr_Internet_Player_001 and Never_played_poker_before_001 walking into a cardroom for their first time and making common mistakes...
Everyone has to learn sometime, no shame in it IMO

Defendant

[GeoffM]

I believe online play is the best. You see way more hands and as a result get a lot more experience calculating pot odds and counting outs and what not. You encounter many tough decisions online which you can draw from in live play.

[eddo31]

although not knowing the rules of the game, or basic table rules is embarassing and obviously makes watching poker much less enjoyable, i think i have seen as much weird stuff from pros, or experienced players, as well.

for example, the final couple of hands at the wpt borgata event was the strangest thing i have seen in televised poker. a string bet, a call before the size of the bet was announced, all sorts of weird stuff. and both of those guys were very experienced players.

i think some of the mistakes that you see are fatigue based, as often the stuff we see is very late in a tourney, when players have been going at it hard for days.

[ChipFish]

I tend to do just fine in B&M...
I learned my game on-line.

[johnbaker]

you do realize that he'd been playing live cash games with friends for over 3 years, right?

[Tuff Luck]

Granted, there is a difference, but you got a point.

[TajaUk]

It is also amusing how he was practically skint (no bankroll) until he won the WSOP, I have heard many people from Star's tell me he had lost alot of money on there over a few years.

[bothecorgi]

I have only played online and I am sure I will be very nervous when, if, I play at a B&M.

[Jackass_man]

I wouldn't doubt it . He made some really bad calls and got very lucky on the river. Look at his success since, he's a one hit wonder and it will just be a matter of time till he's broke.

[johnbaker]

yeah there is, he probably had a lot of online experience in tournaments, so he could adapt to live tournaments pretty easily thanks to his experience in live cash games

-jB

[eddo31]

granted, moneymaker played very well, and he didnt get nearly as lucky as varkonyi did in 02, but he did get lucky a few very memorable times in the tourney. notice the hand where he pushed brenes all in, was a 4-1 dog, and turned his set. i know that you need luck to win tourneys, and moneymaker has proven that he is a good player since then, but dont forget the luck factor involved.