Continuous Shuffle - Online poker RNGs...

[de-coder]

There seems to be a general assumption that time has a profound effect on the result of the RNG. That assumes that the actual system clock is being used as a seed for the RNG, which doesn't have to be the case at all.

When the RNG is called and provides a result that result could easily be the same no matter when it's called. To explain better - if the RNG has provided 48 results so far then the next result would be #49. The value of #49 might have nothing to do with when the RNG is called to produce result #49 - it could be that #49 will contain the same value whether it's call now - or now - or --- now...

In that case, it makes no difference when you click the button - you have no control, or influence, over the outcome at all.

Now, it's likely that it uses a clock, I'm just saying it doesn't HAVE to use a clock. In any event it's unlikely they would ever reveal what they use for a RNG for security sake.

[Talking Poker]

It uses a clock.

The whole point is that that are continuously shuffling (effectively) the remaining cards in the deck.

[GTDawg]

I think you think to much.

[Talking Poker]

Please choose desired response:

1. Agreed.
2. Look who's talking.
3. Is there such a thing?

[GTDawg]

Too pls.

Cause I have a response for that one.

[de-coder]

That isn't exactly what Howard said. What he said was that the remaining cards are shuffled during the action. Obviously that could mean the cards are continuously shuffled, but he didn't actually say that they are, the cards could simply be shuffled once during the action to prepare for the next card.

[ChipFish]

This is hands down the funniest thread EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MAYHEM45]

Yeah right up there with eejits blackjack system.

[drewjax]

I dont get all you morons who say this isnt a big deal. Of course it is. If this is all true, then.....

When I fold a pp or a suited ace to a donk raise, and the flop comes with what "would" have been a set or nut flush, I cant "justify" losing my bloody mind, ranting and raving, and "rightfully" thinking I am jinxed.

[ChipFish]

Since NOONE has control over the outcome. It doesn't matter.
Since everyone lacks the knowledge to "influence" the outcome, the outcome can NOT be influenced, so it is random.

So as I said before Funniest thread EVER!!!!

[Talking Poker]

Exactly.

And yes, I understand that it's still random and all that... but the point is, when people post hands , for example (the first one that comes to mind), it's actually meaningless. Had RD not taken a bathroom break there and raised preflop, maybe he would have gotten it all in on a completely different harmless looking flop of T55 nd maybe a Jack would have come on the river too, just for kicks. So MAYBE, his seemingly ill-timed bathroom break saved him from being eliminated from the tourney with the Kiss of Death.

The point is, we don't know, and knowing that a continuous shuffle exists, we can no longer - ever - speculate about what might have been had we played a particular hand differently.

If that doesn't bother you, great for you. But hopefully you can see how it could bother some people.

[PShabi]

Honestly,

I think it's the worst "serious" discussion ever on this board and I hope it dies off the front page after this post because if I was a newcomer and this was the first thread I saw here, I would never come back.

[Talking Poker]

Noted. I appreciate you relaying your concern here without the need for loads of smilies and font size 7.

That said, I don't understand how someone reading this thread would never want to come back to this site. We have many, many, many far more useless threads than this around here.

But I think I've pretty much said all I can say about this anyway, so I'll do my part in letting it die off. Some people get it, others don't. No biggie.

[GTDawg]

I think I found a way to appease the great Shabs...but I'm sure he already knows about the new Beastie Boys album coming out in a few months.