NFL Rookie of the Year

[Gordogg]

Colston should win it. He's had a great game almost every game he's played in this year, leading the league in receiving until he got hurt, on a team with a legit shot at the super bowl.

Vince Young's numbers aren't great. Titans' defense deserve more credit than Young does for their success. Travis Henry deserves a lot of credit as well. I'm not knocking Young, I think he's done fine. But I remember way too many 125yd passing games with 1 TD 1 INT and 50 rushing yards. Believe me I know, he was on my fantasy team and I needed a QB so I was keeping track.
Jones-Drew had a solid year but he's not starting. I find it hard to give the award to a non starter, the numbers just aren't there.

I dont think the award should ever go to a kick off return guy unless he has ridiculous numbers, even better than what Hester has put up. Now if Hester was incorporated in the offense as a reciever and caught passes every game, scoring a few more TD's, then I would give him serious consideration.

[PShabi]

He broke the return record with 6 (3 PR, 2 KR, 108 FG return) in 13 games. That's ridiculous enough for me. He is a DB and only played WR for 1 possesion this season. He won 2 games for us (PHX and STL) and deserves consideration.

However, the best Bears rookie has been DE You don't even know about him unless you watch a lot of Bears games. He was the defensive rookie of the month in October and he's got 12 sacks this season in a back-up role. This kid is gonna have a great career.

[Reel Deal]

The numbers aren't there? Umm...

M. Colston (NO): 70 catches, 1038 yards, 8 TDs
V. Young (TEN): 169 of 321 (52% comp.), 12 TDs/11 Ints., 69.7 rating (ranked next to last), 6 rushing TDs
D. Hester (CHI): 6 TD returns (3 PR, 2 KR, 108 FG return)
R. Bush (NO): 1,490 all purpose yards, 8 TDs
M. Jones-Drew (JAX): 2,046 all purpose yards, 15 TDs

The numbers most certainly are there.

[GeoffM]

700 of Jones-Drew's yards were garbage yards that came through running back kickoffs (mind you he did run 1 back). Take away both players special teams #s, and we get:

R. Bush : 1,274 all purpose yards, 7 TDs, 86 receptions
M. Jones-Drew : 1,315 all purpose yards, 14 TDs, 40 receptions

Bush also, of course, had that magical 4 TD game.

I go with Bush.

[omahilo]

if it is Bush vs Jones-Drew for ROY then its def. Jones-Drew by far...

14 TDs to 7 TDs... Bush had 4 of those TDs in one game so that means he hasnt done shit in the other games.

Also Bush is only avging 8 yards a reception so all those receptions isnt that great, catching a bunch of 3 yard passes dont mean anything to me.

[Reel Deal]

LMAO... so take away MJD's "garbage yards" and he's still ahead in yards and way ahead in TDs, but you still go with Bush?? Makes perfect sense. BTW, Geoff, go look at MJDs yards per carry average and his yards per catch average, he blows Bush out of the water in both categories. Lay off the koolaid dude.

[GeoffM]

Bush on playoff team, Jones-Drew not

[Talking Poker]

MJD's stats are far better, no question about it. But I think Bush improved the Saints more than MJD improved the Jags. Without him, the Jags wouldn't have a much different team, but without Bush, the Saints definitely would. He opens up that game like you can't believe. You can't put a stat on that, but watch a Saints game sometime and it's obvious.

That's more the kind of criteria you use for MVP voting though (how valuable a guy is to his team) - I think Rookie of the Year just means the best all around rookie.... so that's going to be more stats driven.

[Gordogg]

I didn't realize Jones-Drew had that many TD's. Definite ROY contender with Colston.
Bush had some good games, but inconsistent. Receptions don't mean shit to me when the majority of them were little dink-dump passes, which most of them were for Bush. Anybody on this forum could catch screen passes all day. There is no danger of getting hit going for the ball and there is no defensive back to beat. No skill involved other than holding on to the football.

I still vote for Colston. He didn't fade, he got hurt, big difference. Then when he came back, the Saints decided they couldn't do shit offensively against the powerhouse Redskins. But 70 receptions and over 1k yards with 8TD's is a great year for any reciever rookie or not. There's still one game left too.

[Reel Deal]

If I weren't biased and bitter (see, I can admit it), I'd vote for Colston, then MJD, then Hester, then Bush and V. Young last.