Do you need the nuts?

Penguinfan · #1 12-21-04, 07:30 PM

Anyone else recently feel like you can't win a pot without the stone cold nuts? Man I have given up some chips with really good hands lately. AK with a flop of A K 3 and somone has 3-3 in their hand, that kind of stuff.

Windbreaker · #2 12-21-04, 07:41 PM

Everyone gets into those times where it seems like nothing works. Just have to hang in there and play to the best of your ability. If all things seem to going wrong, maybe it's time for a break and try to do something else for a while.

2Tone · #3 12-21-04, 07:41 PM

I've had a bad couple days myself, coming up with the second best hand too often. The thing that I have to keep in mind though is no, you don't need the nuts to win. Though I've just been murdered at my 2/4 game as of late, I know that most of the time top two pair will win, and that I should keeping pounding away, and that variance is part of the game. If I tightened up my already overly conservative game, it'll just take me longer to win it back.

johnbaker · #4 12-21-04, 09:07 PM

no, im not even comfortable with the nuts after a bad streak last night... flopped a straight in omaha vs a guy with a set and a guy with a flushdraw, they both called the all in and the flush came on the river... then i flopped the nut set, destroyed by a guy with runner-flush with midpair... people are fucking unbelievable...

and nobody say 'o thats cuz theres more screws in omaha'... because similar things happened to me the whole night in holdem also.. fuck.partypoker.i.hate.it.

-jB

Gutzz · #5 12-22-04, 02:33 AM

While I haven't played much poker for the past 4 days (actually I havent played a single hand), when I do feel that I can't win a pot, it usually means I gotta take a break for a bit...

Cheers,

Gutzz

PS. The reason I haven't played isn't because of poker beats/losses... It's because of life

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BlibbityBlabbity · #6 12-22-04, 02:37 AM

Don't

life, man

Having a life should be one of these

There's a positive 1:30 AM message for ya.....BTW, I've been playing poker for the last 4 days and I have't touched my life once

SirFWALGMan · #7 12-22-04, 12:41 PM

I am going through the exact same experience as you. I mean for example last night. The table breaks around me, I am in for the blinds, and one guy is left. I click the deal me out and prepare to play my final hand. He raises as anyone with any kind of hand will do HU. I call. Flop is Kx2. He checks. I check. The turn is a 2. He bets. I raise. He re-raises. I call. I bet the river too. Just because sometimes I do not get it. Anyways, he turns over KK222 vs my 222. Not good. I know I played this a bit poorly since the 222 was obviouse, but WTF do you have to do to win sometimes?

I swear last night I was rivered 50 times. I would have the stone cold nut hand until the river, where the guy hits his runner-runner straight to beat my top trips. I never hit any of my flush draws either. lol.

Anyway I think things will turn around. Just keep playing your game. I am hoping the next week is better. I am down a decent amount of my bankroll and hoping to recover soon. I have been playing for a while and been successful, and it's not like premium hands are beating me, so I have to beleve it will turn around. Good luck to you! Keep the faith!

SirFWALGMan · #8 12-22-04, 12:44 PM

I could never play NL Omaha. It is just such an easy thing to swing from the Nuts to last man standing in one card. I like playing O8 ring though! And yes, HE screws you even more. O8 at least has the benefit of getting the low if your high is destroyed.

hackers238 · #9 12-22-04, 12:54 PM

I have been hitting some swings lately, a lot more variance than I'm used to seeing. But whats weird, and this is only on poker champs, that every time I lose a big hand or two, within the next 10 hands I win a huge one to make up for it. A few minutes ago I lost 7x BB with TPTK losing to a hidden set, and then the next hand flopped the nut flush, but only made 11x BB. This is the way its been for a while!

I think that my too tight image is hurting me...

BlibbityBlabbity · #10 12-22-04, 01:04 PM

Yeah, I have played a couple of tourneys that were NL omaha h/l and I went out in like 1-3 hands in both of them. Great hands, great flops all in, then beat by a draw. Should you just wait for the river to try to get all in? If someone raises all in and you have the best hand currently, do you call knowing they most likely have a good hand with a draw that beats you?

I have done ok in limit omaha h/l tourneys, but having some issues knowing when to commit in NL.

I will move this to a new thread to discuss it....