Bottom Two Pair

[ashmc2]

OK, my latest ass-ache – Bottom 2 pr.

Does anyone slowplay these bastards?

I don’t usually slowplay them, but I do usually underbet a little to keep people around if the board seems unthreatening. The problem is that lately I’ve noticed that if on the turn or river an Ace comes or the board pairs the high card my hand quickly becomes 2nd best.

It seems to me though, that if I always ram with B2pr that I’m losing profits in the long run, because a lot of the time they won’t hit their 2 pair.

Anyone agree/disagree?

Does anyone always bet hard with B2pr?

Similar, but different thing happened in this week’s cash game
Ex. I’m holding 56 on the bb.
Flop – 556
I slowplay and turn and river bring 88
Dude had an 8 and bang there goes half my stack.
I know I’m just being results oriented here, but damn it hurt my bottomline in this week’s cash game.

OK, I’ve rambled enough, later.

[Zybomb]

Things to keep in mind:

1- Slowplaying bottom two (especially something like 56) is rarely if ever a good play

2- With that said, a check raise is often more effective than a lead out in some situations when trying to 'fast play'

Example: 3 limpers in the pot, and you complete from the SB with 56, the BB checks. (We'll use 1/2 blinds for easy math). $10 in the pot. flop comes K 6 5. By just leading out here, you bet $8- $10, which may not be enough to get hands away... you may get ore action than you'd like. By checking with 4 opponents behind you, it is likely someone fires, then you can check raise for $24-$30. If this is called a large turn bet is in order (and the pot has been built up nicely for you)

3. Pay attention to pre-flop actions of all players and put them on hands

4. Look at the flops! K 5 6, it's likely a player has the King, and is coming along for the ride if you bet (or betting himself if you check). Say you have 4 5 and the flop coems 4 5 9, it's less likely you are getting action.

5. If two large cards come, and your opponent isn't slowing down YOU slow down.

Example: Flop K 5 6. Said you choose to lead out, your opponent calls. The turn comes a J and now your opponent raises, call then check call the river

Overall fast aggressive play with these hands is great -- hope your opponent has flopped the top pair with a decent kicker and pays you off.

[BrianSwa]

slow playing bottom 2 is really a terrible Idea, I mean think about it you are giving someone the chance to catch a better 2 pair. The flop could be total rainbow but it is still a bad Idea.