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10-27-04, 11:28 PM
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Favorite Poker Book?
So with this recent insurgence of poker book threads, I suppose its time to ask yall, what poker books did you find most useful for you?
My personal favorites are David Sklansky - Theory of Poker TJ Cloutier, Tom Mcevoy - Championship PL/NL Poker Defendant |
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10-28-04, 12:19 AM
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Favorite books
I prefer narrative to instructional.
As mentioned before, McManus (Positively Fifth Street) is why I play the game. My other favorites are Shut Up and Deal (novel) by Jesse May and Big Deal: One Year as a Professional Poker Player by Tony Holden. |
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#3
10-28-04, 01:24 AM
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Internet Texas Hold'em
Mine has been Internet Texas Hold'em. It taught me Texas Hold'em and Internet Play.
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10-28-04, 01:25 AM
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Play Poke Like The Pros
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10-28-04, 03:49 AM
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supersystem is obviously a classic, and it is amazing how much of the advice in there still works. it is a bit dated, but any cutting edge book from 30 years ago would be.
i like theory of poker and poker essays much better than hold em for advanced players. i'm not really as interested in worrying about specific situations in these books, but understanding the theoretical background of sklansky and malmuth is very interesting and helpful. high low split for advanced players by ray zee is a pretty solid book. i think it is the best book i have seen for o8b play, much better tha ciaffones at least. as for poker novels/narratives, i think that big deal and positively fifth street are good, but i couldnt stand poker nation. for general gambling though bringing down the house takes the cake. |
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10-28-04, 10:53 AM
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Is it just me or is Helmuth the only pro who has written a book that included a detailed description of how they play and then NOT changed their game at all?
Brunson has said many times he had to come up with a new style of play after Super Sytem came out. |
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10-28-04, 01:26 PM
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i like theory of poker and poker essays much better than hold em for advanced players. i'm not really as interested in worrying about specific situations in these books, but understanding the theoretical background of sklansky and malmuth is very interesting and helpful. \ Sklansky and Malmuth are great writers of theory but from what i've heard not the greatest players. Sklansky is so wrapped around the odds and everything that he would "make a move" in tournaments and is the biggest rock in the world. Some of the greatest players out there have little education and don't know all the probabilities but know people. So what makes a better player? |
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10-28-04, 02:24 PM
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Winning Low limit Hold Em by Lee Jones definatly my favorite.
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10-29-04, 02:22 AM
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you know, i didnt really get a whole lot out of play poker like the pros. it is an interesting book, and i think the section on tournament hold em was good, but i thought that everything else was pretty basic.
if you look at hellmuth's record, im not sure that there is really any reason to take his advice on any game but no limit tournament hold em. |
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10-29-04, 10:34 AM
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Eddo, you are right that Helmuth is the no limit tourney guy.
The problem is there are no "premier" O8B players, IMO. It is very hard to find any book on this that would teach me anything I don't already know, or that I can even find a book about it. I'm not a big fan of buying on line, and I have been to 20 different bookstores and they all have the same books, nothing on O8B. Sucks  .
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10-29-04, 12:17 PM
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i fyou havent checked it out yet, check out ray zee's book on high low split poker. it is divided up between o8b and s8b, and i thought it was pretty good. i too have been searching for a good o8b book, and i think the zee one was much better than hellmuths or ciaffones.
maybe supersystem2 will have a good omaha section. |
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#16
10-29-04, 12:51 PM
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If you were really experienced, it would be a bit basic. However, when I read it, it helped me immensely. It really hammers home the "raise to see where you're at" play and that was missing from my game. If I had JJ and the flop came down K 8 4 and someone bet I would fold a lot or maybe just call, but I was "in the dark" as to what my opponent was holding.
The play helps you know where you stand and takes out some guess work. |
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10-29-04, 01:19 PM
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i play low limits, and the concept of raising to see where you are at isnt really as significant to me. i think that is a concept that is much more important in high limit games where the players are more experienced, and can make sophisticated plays with any variety of cards.
to take your JJ example, in general playing low limits, where there are 4-6 callers preflop every hand, i pretty much know that i am beat on that flop. i might take a card off to try and hit a set, but in general i am not going to put a lot more into the pot. people stick around with way too many Kx hands, and even a king weak kicker will have me in trouble right now. i do think that hi sbook is a good book for beginners, and i am not trying to claim that i am above that book, i just tought that a lot of his tought processes could have been developed further. i still reference the book for nlhe, and for tournament play though. |
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10-29-04, 04:37 PM
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bad beats and lucky draws
I just picked up this book, it has some interesting stories from what i've read so far. About have way through it right now. Alot of phil talking about great reads he made and being outdrawn. A good thing is alot of the stories aren't even about him.
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#20
10-29-04, 10:55 PM
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i think i might go out and pick it up, or at least flip through it at the local bookstore. i thought the stories he told in play poker like the pros, while almost all slanted towards making him seem like gods gift to poker, were very entertaining.
i think i like the stories about other pros better, because they are lacking the phil bias. |
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10-31-04, 11:38 PM
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He has a section where top pro's tell stories of hands ppl like doyle,layne flack,johnny chan and others even that whore annie duke had one (i didn't read it though). It's a decent book i read the whole thing in about 2 days but i kept the reciept so i'll return it to chapters tommorow.
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11-01-04, 12:56 AM
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it was 20 bucks and i read it in 2 days and now i have no use for it. I checked the library and they didn't have it. I am well within the return policy parameters. After I read T.J;s no limit hold em tourney book i returned that too, hell that one was close to 40. I'm not rich i live in a trailer park for christ sake!
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#24
11-01-04, 03:30 AM
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Mike Caros book of Poker Tells
and Lee Jones low limit Holdem
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11-01-04, 08:32 AM
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i try to screw over the big book stores any way possible. i used to work in a small bookstore, and we were forced out of business essentially by barnes and noble moving in next door. it completely killed us.
thus, i have no problems whatsoever with what jackass did. i usually go to the local borders (which isnt as bad as barnes and noble) and sit in the cafe and read any books or magazines that i am interested in. i take notes right there, and they could care less about it. |
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