Football season is coming!!!!

[Penguinfan]

I know this is not poker related, but since it doesn't conflict with anything TP is doing I am gonna offer it to you guys here.

If you want to bet on football this season (or any sport) sign up at the internets best/fastest paying book and get a 20% bonus on your deposit.

Not only that but I will throw in a weeks unlimited access to one of the best handicapping sites on the internet. Now, I am a bit biased since I work there as the NHL handicapper, but nobody else on the internet can say they cashed TWICE in the Las Vegas Hilton NFL Super Contest!!! One of those was a 12th place finish and the other a 5th place for a combined 20 GRAND!!!

Nobody will treat you better than we do, nobody.



Let me know via PM that you signed up through this link and once I confirm your account I will get you set up with a password for the handicapping site.

Sorry, I will not post the name of the handicapping site here, and I ask that any of you that sign up don't post it either.

[lightfungus]

I may be interested, but could you explain the handicapping thing a bit more. How does the sport betting world operate and what is the handicapping all about? Do you bet Win/lose, point margins, both...? I would just like to be a bit mroe familiar.

[Penguinfan]

Without getting too detailed, we handicap every game on the board Sunday, most college games on Saturday and baseball games that fall into the playable catagory and then post plays for our members that represent value.

You would be betting "Against the Spread" or ATS in football, yes. We would list plays such as Dallas -2 meaning we want you to ber on Dallas to win by two points or more, or Kansas City +4 meaning KC to not lose by more than four points. The industry standard is -110 which means you lay $110 to win $100, if you win you get $210 back (your 110 plus 100 profit) if you lose you lose $110, this is referred to as the juice, suck but thats the way it is.

In baseball and hockey things are a bit different as you would bet on a team to win without any kind of point spread but you must lay a heavier price to bet the favorite, such as Detroit vs Florida, if you want to bet on Detroit to win you are getting the heave favorite but you will probably have to risk $180 to win $100 and sometimes worse. This is the case for baseball as well. In years past you could lay a half a goal in hockey meaning if there was a tie your bet would lose. With the NHL going to a system that no longer involves ties we will have to see how Vegas adjusts these lines.

You can also bet over or under a specific point total and we sometimes have an opinion on those bets as well.

Lastly, people will tell you how evil professional handicappers are, and there are some bad ones with some exceptional scams and I'll follow this post with an example. We are not those kind of people, our record is publicly tracked and we have copies of the cashed checkes from the Hilton contest.

If you have any specific questions feel free to ask. Jumping into the world of sports betting is risky and must be done with that in mind.

[Penguinfan]

Here's a scam that has been around for a long time, but is still plenty successful for the scums out there.

You get a mailing list of 1000 people and tell them you have an absolute lock on the Monday night game between Green Bay and Miami, no doubt it a winner and you are gonna give it to them FREE! You give 500 of those people Green Bay and 500 Miami. Let's say Miami covers the spread, you e-mail all the people you gave Miami to and tell them you have yet another mortal lock in the Thursday ESPN college game and again it's gonna be FREE!

You do the same thing, you give 250 Virginia and 250 Texas. When Texas covers you now have 250 people who think you have the key to riches.

Now Saturday rolls around and you e-mail the 250 people who had Texas and tell them you have found another mistake Vegas has made in the line of the Penn St vs Temple, but this time you need $20 to give them the winner. Even if 100 people send you a measly twenty bucks you are $2000 better off!

Now you send 50 of those people PSU and 50 Temple.

On Sunday morning you reel in the big money as 50 people have got three winners in a row from you and only invested twenty bucks! You tell those 50..........you get the idea.

The price gets higher as the wins pile up, and one side has to win. Eventually you play yourself down to just a couple people and it fizzles out, but you will be thousands better off and you buy another mailing list of 1000 new people and start over again. Trust me, people do this all 16 weeks of the NFL season and take home buckets of money.

You can't get plays sent via e-mail, you have to get them posted on a web-site that can't tell which side you are supposed to see.

[Aequitas58]

^^ Nice.

[junYUN]

thats a good idea

i might have to do that

[eejit101]

Genius, but who the hell is thick enough to fall for it?

[Penguinfan]

Thats the beauty of the scam, nobody is really falling for anything, it's a victimless crime. Nobody pays for anything until thay had recieved two free winning plays already.

Now if you got one of the original 500 losing plays and you bet it then you have nobody to blame but yourself. The first batch of plays is meant to get the attintion of 500 people. I doubt you would run out and bet on the Pirates today just because an unsolicited e-mail told you to, right?

Now when the second batch of 250/250 goes out I would imagine some people on the losing side will place a bet based on the first play being a winner, so these people are the only ones who have a gripe, maybe.

After that your playing with the houses money and are gonna be up even if you get a loser on the third play, I mean who pays $20 for a play when they only bet $20 a game? These are more like $200 a game players minimum.

The outcome of a scam like this is usually about 50 paying customers, thats all, but if you get them for $20 the first time and $50 the next and anything at all after that your in great shape because you have almost nothing invested.

Who would fall for it? PLENTY.

[eejit101]

You have to remember im in the UK, so people question these things more over here, were all a bit anal about it.

[Penguinfan]

Your signature line is killing me!