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Old 12-02-04, 01:10 AM
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So here is the latest development in my life planning on moving to Vegas and attending poker dealing school. Gonna cost me $699.00 which isnt a problem. Gonna have to move to Vegas now that a problem, see my wife really hates change and is scared of it so her moving with me and taking a chance is gonna be ruff to get by her. I have a decent job now but I find day after day its getting harder and harder to get to work and I find im really not happy now adays. I want to be happy. The purpose this thread is really want to know if you guys have taken any real big chances and want to see how they worked out. The way I figure it is if I dont take this chance am I gonna wonder my whole life.
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Old 12-02-04, 01:37 AM
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im not sure that becoming a dealer is the best move. i am sure that you enjoy poker, but as a dealer you dont actually play. in general, you just get to hang around with a bunch of assholes that abuse you. the actions of many players are just completely unacceptable, and they are usually taken out on a dealer. are you ready to have cards thrown in your face, and just sit there and take it?

im not sure that i would make a move to vegas based upon this principle. if you live near any type of card room now, i would reccomend that you try that first, but i would be wary of becoming a dealer when what you probably want is to play poker yourself. there is a big difference
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Old 12-02-04, 01:50 AM
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Ive dealt in customer service for many years so pissed off people dont bother me in the least. Actully ive dealt a couple times and I enjoy it as much as playing and the money is much much better then what im getting paid now im getting sick or relying on others to help me when I get in a jam with bills or whatever. I feel the time in my life has come when I got to do something for my family. I appritiate your comments though thanks.
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Old 12-02-04, 01:51 AM
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yeah eddo is right, u cant make much of a career through dealing, and you will have to deal with some MAJOR bullshit. isnt worth it unless you love to watch poker played in front of you.. im sure u could really improve ur reads a lot, but i would probably get sick of poker if i could just watch and not play for hours and hours.

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Old 12-02-04, 01:57 AM
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alot of the pro's started of dealing but im not doing it for that reason the job pays very well and I dont mind watching it. Mainly doing it for family, need a new carrer this one is just not cutting it.
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Old 12-02-04, 07:36 AM
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How much does a dealer get paid in vegas? Taking into consideration the insane amount of rake that B&M's take in ... and the tips, which the dealers apparently split ... and the costs of running a casino ... I can't imagining it being super high, otherwise more people would end up working as dealers ... but I hear they get great benefits though
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Old 12-02-04, 11:02 AM
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Pay itself tends to be on the low end, but tokes generally make up for that, especially at higher limit tables. Its kind of like a waiters job: Shitty pay, but good tips make up for it.

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tokes average about 50k a year which is double my salary now.
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Old 12-02-04, 12:01 PM
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$700 to become a dealer? I would be all over that... ALOT of pros started out as dealers... Gavin, Fischman, Awada... I dunno what you would do for living expenses till you get going since Im sure living in LV is expensive. Im a college student and if that doesnt work out for some reason I know what my next goal in life would be... dealing what else. Anyways I say go for it if you can, you will get to see so many hands... and if you can make 50K a yr, thats good too lol.

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Old 12-02-04, 12:38 PM
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thanks for encouragement, im sure I wont make 50k to start, im sure ill have to start in the less busy casino but if I even make half of that I make what im making now the house we are looking at is 185k which really isnt that bad if we sell this one and we split it with my mom which we have to we will have about 50k to spend on it which is fine. Oh yea and you forgot fishman in your dealers that are now doing good
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Good luck to you, whatever you decide.

Reading this thread makes me respect you not wanting to be paid for posting here even more, btw.... sounds like you could use the money.
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Old 12-02-04, 02:17 PM
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Recently I took a similar chance and moved to another city in hopes of a better opportunity. While everything hasn't gone exactly as I'd planned I feel like I made the right decision. If this is what you want to do, go do it. You will always have others trying to talk you out of anything you want to do, but if this is what you want, give it a try. There's nothing to lose, but everything to gain. I think by relocating it's made me a stronger person and I've been able to enjoy different things in a new city. I have a better attitude because I don't feel like I'm "trapped" and/or wasting my time somewhere I don't want to be. If things don't work out, you've got 2 choices. You can go back to the miserable spot you came from with your tail between your legs, or you can make some sacrifices and do what you really want, where you want. It might not be easy, but in the end it'll be well worth the struggle. Everyone needs to take a chance sometimes and that's what can make all the difference. Good luck.
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If your not happy now then what do you honestly have to lose? You want to wait around until you ARE stuck in that job you have now? I remember people from my past who I considered a little lower on the scale than me, never really kept a steady job, moves around when the rent caught up to them etc... and while I can't say I would be comfortable getting to that point in life I seem to remember they were never as miserable as some of the people I work with, even some who make more than me. Yea they got their nice big house and 3 cars and all that stuff you see on TV, but they are putting in 50 hours+ a week just to pay the friggin finance charge on what they owe, how can they possibly be happier than my old friends who seemingly had nothing? Obviously finding somewhere in the middle of those two extremes is much better, but you get my point. In another thread in the general forurm I discussed where my wife gave up a 25k a year job to be a stay at home mom, we sure miss that money like hell, but we are much happier than we could possibly have been if she stayed working. Do what you can to be responsible but not a slave to the grind.
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Old 12-02-04, 02:58 PM
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175K for a house in or near Vegas has to be a great deal. I dont know what the prices are for houses in Vegas but I think that has to be good. 50K towards that already sounds good too. Seems like you know what your doing if you decide to make this move.

PS: if you look at my first post again, I did include Fischman on pro players that were dealers.
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That's got a post about dealer school and finding a job today...
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Hey, If you go make sure that you still post here! It would be really interesting to hear whats goin on in the life of a real dealer!
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well im scheduled to attend class starting on january 31st and my wife suprisenly is backing me 100% which is awsome. She is scarred as shit and frankly so am I (just dont tell her that). Gonna put in for vacation time at current job for 2 weeks so I can get through the classes. Maybe ill deal for some of you and Vegas hehe. Probolly wont see me posting as much next couple weeks need to bear down and crank out the overtime. Hopefully my mom dosent totally freak out, she has helped my wife and I so much. She will be the hardest one to tell. The cost is $699.00 which includes the hotel and he told me after I graduate he will help me find a job which is nice of them. Thanks again for all the encouragment it is much appritiated. Wont be spending any real money on poker next couple weeks also which sucks but its for a good cause.
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And I don’t want to be negative. But, man, that’s tough decision. Second hand smoke, abusive customers, drawing the graveyard shift three weeks in a row, getting a flat tire on the way home from work when it is 112 degree out.

I love Vegas – maybe too much. I go about four times a year, and spend a whole lot of the rest of the year looking forward to the next trip. But the reason I love it so is my time is divided between poker tables/strip club/night club/Bellagio buffet (in something close to that order). If I was living there, it would be a whole different story. Without enough self-discipline, I could see myself getting in a lot of trouble fast.

Good luck to you – hope you knock ‘em dead, and please keep us posted.
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Old 12-02-04, 06:03 PM
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no doubt i will i love this place and you users are awsome I will probolly get my vacation so ill get my certificate then come back and at least give my job 2 week notice.
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wow, you got balls man. that takes a lot of courage to just up and move to vegas (especially if you gamble lol) but all the luck in the world to you.
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Old 12-02-04, 08:26 PM
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thanks alot again... well is should get my certification and come back to work right in time to work my last couple weeks. Not gonna move until im absolutley positive I have a confirmed job either in vegas or atlantic city. Of course id rather have vegas for obvious reasons $$$$ but if I have to ill take AC. Ill post a picture of myself on here eventully so you all can come say hi to me if you see me in vegas and if you all are ever in the neiborhood maybe we could play a ring game or something
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Really? Hasn't the US gone along with the rest of the world and banned smoking in public places?

Here in Australia, smoking is banned in all casinos, nightclubs, restaurants, bars, pubs, etc.

In a litigious society like the US, isn't allowing smoking in public places opening up a huge can of worms?

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Most card rooms are non smokeing but the casino itself you can smoke. Only a select number of casinos allow smoking in card rooms.
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True -- most of the nice Vegas rooms are non-smoking now, which I love. My local card room in Seattle WA is awful -- six out of 10 players puffing away, and low ceilings, so it all just hangs the air. I come out just reeking.
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I smoke but even if my card room was a smokeing one i wouldnt smoke in concideration of the other players.
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