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2005 Tournament of Champions
Caesars Palace – Las Vegas
Official Report

Day One
No-Limit Hold’em
Number of Entries: 114
Total Prize Money: $2,000,000


End of Day One Standings:


Name Hometown Chips Table Seat
1 Phil Hellmuth Palo Alto, CA $110,900 1 3
2 Mike Matusow Las Vegas, NV $107,600 2 3
3 Hoyt Corkins Glenwood, AL $65,700 3 3
4 Lonnie Alexander Las Vegas, NV $58,600 3 7
5 Aaron Bartley Las Vegas, NV $53,200 2 7
6 Mike 'the Grinder' Mizrachi Hollywood, FL $46,700 1 7
7 Johnny Chan Cerritos, CA $46,500 1 9
8 Mark Hanna Cincinnati, OH $44,700 2 9
9 Neal Gersony Rocky Hill, CT $42,300 3 9
10 Chad Brown Los Angeles, CA $40,800 3 5
11 Yosh Nakano Long Beach, CA $39,700 2 5
12 Daniel Bergsdorf Umea, Sweden $38,900 1 5
13 Keith Sexton Dayton, OH $36,200 1 1
14 Stan Goldstein Cypress, CO $33,700 2 1
15 Brandon Adams New Orleans, LA $30,000 3 1
16 Steven Dannenmann Severn, MD $28,700 3 4
17 James Giordano Miami, FL $27,900 2 4
18 Jonathan Shecter Las Vegas, NV $27,700 1 4
19 Tony Ma S. El Monte, CA $27,200 1 8
20 Rene Angelil Henderson, NV $26,600 2 8
21 Doyle Brunson Las Vegas, NV $25,000 3 8
22 Imre Leibold Tallinn, Estonia $24,000 3 2
23 Tony Bloom London, England $22,900 2 2
24 David Levi Las Vegas, NV $22,800 1 2
25 Aaron Kanter Lodi, CA $22,700 1 6
26 Ted Lawson Fort Lauderdale, FL $21,300 2 6
27 Grant Lang Brookfield, CT $19,700 3 6
28 George Saca Folsom, CA $17,900 3 10
29 Salim Batshon Foster City, CA $16,300 2 10
30 Jeff Stanely Tucson, AZ $13,800 1 10



Hail Caesar!
Ceasars Palace Las Vegas Hosts the
2005 Tournament of Champions
After Day One, Phil Hellmuth is the chip leader,
Mike Matusow is close second

Caesar’s Palace has accommodated many epic events over the years. From Evel Knievel’s daredevil motorcycle jump over the imperial fountains back in 1968 to numerous heavyweight championship prizefights spanning four decades, Caesars Palace has long been associated with gargantuan sporting spectacles. Now, add poker to Caesar’s carte du jour.

For the first time since 1990, Caesars hosted a live poker tournament. Fifteen years after the last ‘Super Bowl of Poker’ concluded (historical footnote: T.J. Cloutier was the winner), tournament poker returned to Las Vegas’ most urbane palatial paradise. The 2005 Tournament of Champions (TOC) commenced at Caesars on Sunday, November 6th.

This year’s TOC foreshadows Caesars’ grand design to soar back into the poker business. On December 20th, Caesars will open Las Vegas’ largest poker room. Caesars new poker room will spread 63 tables – 33 specifically designated for tournaments and 30 for live action.

“For many years, Caesars was one of the biggest names in poker,” said Michael Matts – Caesars Palace Poker Room Manager. “Starting on December 20th, a new poker era will begin when we bring poker back to one of Las Vegas’ most legendary and luxurious casinos. Whether it’s recreational games, mid-limit poker, big-bet poker, or our ongoing tournaments, Caesars plans to set a new standard in excellence.”

This is the second year of the TOC. The annual no-limit hold’em qualifying tournament is a special $2 million freeroll. Invited players include all of the highest finishers at World Series of Poker Circuit events held during the previous year. From January-July 2005, six WSOP events were held – at Atlantic City, San Diego, Lake Tahoe, New Orleans, and two in Las Vegas. The top 20 players from each event qualified to play in this invitational tournament, competing for two million dollars in prize money. First place will pay $1 million.

With so much prize money and bragging rights for one of poker’s most prestigious titles at stake, many of poker’s biggest names converged inside the Caesars Augustus Ballroom. The starting field of 114 players included six current and former world poker champions – Joe Hachem (2005), Chris Ferguson (2000), Russ Hamilton (1994), Phil Hellmuth (1989), Johnny Chan (1987, 1988), and Doyle Brunson (1976, 1977). Several former WSOP gold bracelet winners entered, as well – including Joe Awada, T.J. Cloutier, Allen Cunningham, Antonio ‘the Magician’ Esfandiari, Scott Fischman, Jennifer Harmon, Phil Ivey, Howard ‘the Professor’ Lederer, Tony Ma, Mike ‘the Mouth’ Matusow, and Robert Williamson III.

Few of these big names made it past the first day. One of the first players to exit was defending WSOP champ, Joe Hachem, from Melbourne, Australia. Hachem flopped a set of threes, but lost to a flush. Many others would follow with similar bad beat stories. During the initial 13 hours, the TOC played down to 30 survivors. At the end of Day One, the chip leaders are familiar names to those who follow tournament poker and watch the WSOP in ESPN. Phil Hellmuth, Jr., the 1989 world champion, enjoys a slight chip lead over Mike Matusow and the rest of the field.

Hellmuth stunned the poker world 16 years ago when he won his title. He has since won a total of nine WSOP gold bracelets. Remarkably, all nine victories have been in hold’em events. In the last few years, Hellmuth has become a virtual corporation. He has written three poker books, endorsed popular video games, and commands speaking fees which rival former presidents and heads of state. But the TOC remains an elusive poker prize for Hellmuth. He finished a disappointing second-place at last year’s TOC, prompting a well-documented outburst on ESPN (Annie Duke was the winner).

Mike ‘the Mouth’ Matusow, who is unquestionably playing the best poker of his life at the moment, is second in chips – with 107,600. Former champions Doyle Brunson (with 25,000) and Johnny Chan (with 46,500) also remain in contention.

The past year has been a wild roller-coaster ride for Matusow, one of poker’s most combustible characters. Matusow is known just as much for his verbal tirades as his poker accomplishments. Whatever one thinks personally about Matusow and his behavior, there is no questioning his poker talent. Matusow has made it to two WSOP (main event) final tables over the past four years. Only one other player, Dan Harrington, has accomplished that. The next two days will determine if Mike Matusow achieve what would be a breakthrough victory and personal triumph. Although he won $1 million four months ago at the WSOP (finishing 9th), winning this tournament would solidify a special place in history for a player who was at rock bottom at the start of 2005.

With poker bad boys Hellmuth and Matusow setting the pace, this promises to be one of the most dramatic poker events of the year. Day Two (Monday) will eliminate another 21 aspiring millionaires. Then, the nine finalists will return on Day Three (Tuesday). Prize money will be divided, as follows:

1st Place -- $1,000,000
2nd Place – 325,000
3rd Place – 250,000
4th Place – 150,000
5th Place – 100,000
6th Place – 75,000
7th Place – 50,000
8th Place – 25,000
9th Place – 25,000

On Day Two -- play resumes at 12 noon PST.


Note: All content in this report may be re-printed by media.


Official Report by Nolan Dalla – World Series of Poker Media Director

Caesar’s Poker Room Manager – Michael Matts
Tournament Director – Robert Daily
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Day 2 results are up on Cardplayer. It's down to the Final Table. Hellmuth has a pretty good chiplead. Matusow is still in second too. Pretty crazy.

There also seems to be a lot of controversy in the poker world, because this was supposed to be a freeroll reserved for anyone who finished Top 20 in any WSOP circuit event last year as well as the people who final tabled the Main Event. This was supposed to be one of the perks of playing in the circuit events. But at the last minute, they invited, Phil, Johnny Chan, and Doyle to play. Several pros, like Daniel Negreanu (you can read his blog about it), were pretty pissed for the sake of all the players who earned their way into it. It really doesn't come off as a jealous rant either. Probably more of a comment on the state of poker promoters right now, who don't really care about the players and only care about the bottom line.

Not to say that this won't make amazing television with Phil and Mike at the final table.
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you have anything to say about the way that harrahs/espn added hellmuth, doyle and chan to the tourney after they set the qualification rules, and none of those guys qualified?

seems pretty bunk to me. i dont have a problem with it if they actually said somewhere in the rules that they were going to add a few stars to bump up the tourney appeal for tv, but it doesnt seem like that is the case.

negreanu said some stuff about this on his blog, and he made some good points, but he is getting flamed at other places for his views.

just curious what you might have to say about this, as you have at least played in world series events and this could be something that is a bigger problem in the future.
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What's the url for his blog?
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I haven't read what Daniel wrote yet (at fullcontactpoker.com I assume), but I probably agree with him. As eddo said, if the original plan was to invite a bunch of superstars, but also allow a number of other players qualify from the circuit events, then great, that's fine. But I highly doubt thaty was the plan, or else there would be a lot more superstars in the field. If the plan was to invite EVERY Main Event Bracelet winner ever, in addition to this year's qualifiers, again, I'm fine with that. But I don't think they did that either, and I think it sucks that they are giving those few guys special treatment. Yes, two of them have won multiple Main Event Bracelets and 10 total (each), but how does Phil get in and not other worthy players?

Overall, I don't like it. Invite none or invite them all (Main Event Winners is how I would do it), but don't randomly pick just a few.
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Somebody cut and paste the bit about the TOC exemptions. I can't access the blog at work.
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I think the more important question here is...

Why the hell didn't they invite TP then?
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Sunday, November 6th, 2005

The TOC was a nice way for them to give something back to the players- a $2 million free roll to those players that followed the WSOP circuit events and/or made the final table at the main event.

They didn't have to do that, but it was a nice promotion and certainly helped garner some interest for the WSOP circuit events. The rules were simple: from the five stops on the Circuit, if you finished in the top 20 at one of the stops you would qualify for the Tournament of Champions. Or, if you were lucky enough to make the final table of the main event you would also qualify, for a final total of 109 players with a chance at a $2 million free roll, or $18,350 in equity.

Early on, many of the players didn't believe that it would happen this way. I did, though, as naive as that may have been. I truly believed that they would keep their word and that would be that. At the time, I had no reason to think otherwise.

Well, they lied. To all of those players that went from circuit event to circuit event trying to qualify for that event, guys like Bob Hume, Harry Cullen Jr., Corey Bierria, Jonathan Schecter, Don Mullis, and several others, you all received a pay cut.

The players were promised on SEVERAL occasions that if they qualified, they would be facing off against 108 other players for a chance at $2 million. They were lied to.

It was announced about a week or so prior to the event that there would be three exemptions added to the list: Doyle Brunson, Johnny Chan, and Phil Hellmuth! So how do you like that Corey Bierria! All three of those men had a chance to qualify just like you, but didn't make the cut. Ah, but that's ok, they let them in anyway.

They chopped into your equity Mr. Don Mullis without ever bothering to consult with you. Hey Bob Hume, were you ever consulted or asked to vote on whether or not it was ok for them to chop into your equity? Didn't think so.

Poker players are not stupid. Things like this are not forgotten. They took a nice gesture by giving away some free money and found a way to screw that up to.

Now, don't get me wrong I can totally understand why they would want to add some higher profile players to the event, but that had to be clear BEFORE Harry Cullen Jr. decided to fork over his money for the circuit event he qualified in.

Had they said this, "20 players will qualify at 5 different locations along with the 9 final table members from the main event and anyone who has more that 8 WSOP bracelets," then who could have a beef with that?

Since they didn't, how do you explain to the other players that they while they thought they only had to face 108 other players, that oh, by the way, you'll also have to face Doyle, Johnny, and Phil? How do you explain to them that you promised them $18,350 in equity, but that at the last minute you took about $500 out of their pocket and only give them $17, 850 in equity?

I played in a couple of the Circuit events myself in an attempt to qualify but didn't make it. That's totally fine, rules are rules and I was VERY happy to hear that the TOC players would get there based on a clear system as apposed to last year where the selection process was faulty.

Now this whole thing isn't a "huge" deal really, but where do we draw the line? What if they had told Don Mullis that they were going to add anyone who'd won a bracelet to the tournament? So then, rather than facing off against 100 players he would have had to face off against 200+ players?

Marlon Labbe, John Smith, Eric Cloutier, Tommy Reed, Glyn Banks, and all of the players who were lied to are owed at LEAST an apology. Equity was taken from their pockets and they didn't even have a say in the matter.

It's bad etiquette to complain about a "free gift," but not in this case. In this case, each player paid their $10,000 PLUS JUICE to enter the tournament knowing that if they made the top 20, they'd be getting $18,350 in added equity. Not to mention airfare, hotel accommodations, as well as food (the players weren’t t given as much as a free bag of chips!)

Of course, they don't want to talk about all that. Instead, they'd rather sneak it in under your nose so you don't even realized that you are being screwed. Had they told you Tommy Reed, that they were going to add these players, would you have voted YES, please make it more difficult for me to win the $2 million, or NO, they didn't qualify like everyone else, so they shouldn't be allowed to play.

Poor business decisions like this one leave a bad taste in customers mouths. The decision didn't really affect me personally, as I may have played the tournaments anyway, but this decision DOES affect every person who did qualify, as well as others who played in the tournament knowing that they would only have to beat 108 other players to win.

Hopefully stuff like this doesn't become the norm, but unless the players themselves band together and police these types of things internally, nobody else will.

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I agree that they should set the rules before the start of the first event in the series. The WSOP is in a constant state of change these day (figuring out how to accommodate larger fields, revamping the structures/# of events/locations, etc), but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have waited till next year to add this loophole in.

It was not really a "freeroll" since you had to qualify for it through a paid event. I would categorize this as a bonus event (along the lines of similar online events based on play at real money tables, etc)

When I first read some of the posts above I thought they REMOVED the circuit players...they in fact just added a few more prominent players in at the last minute. This does cut into the players odds and it should have been clear up front, IMO....
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No schit! I mean, sure, I didn't "qualify" based on their little rules, but I have more POY points than Hellmuth!
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So, you can trade those points in for bracelets? 9 of em?
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I don't think so, no. But I'll look into it.
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I think it's fine to have some "wild card" entrants (like in professional tennis) but, yeah, they should notify everyone up front that they'll be adding X number of wild cards.

Maybe I need to start a professional poker players association.
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2005 Tournament of Champions
Caesars Palace – Las Vegas
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Day Two
No-Limit Hold’em
Number of Entries: 114
Total Prize Money: $2,000,000


Battle of the Gladiators:
Final Nine Set for 2005 Tournament of Champions

Phil Hellmuth Remains Chip Leader, Mike Matusow Second


The 2005 Tournament of Champions (TOC) continued at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas. Day Two began with two of poker’s most combustible personalities, Phil Hellmuth and Mike Matusow, basking in a sizeable chip lead versus the rest of the field. Hellmuth and Matusow began the second day as the only players with more than $100,000 in chips. Hoyt Corkins, the genial Alabama cowboy, started in third place with $65,000. Remarkably, very little changed on Day Two. Hellmuth and Matusow remained as the chip leaders. Corkins fell to seventh place in the chip count, but survived.

Play started at 12 noon and continued for only six hours, a lightening-fast pace by World Series of Poker standards. By late afternoon, 21 aspiring millionaires had been eliminated. Several famous names fell by the wayside, including Michael “The Grinder” Mizrachi, Tony Ma, Johnny Chan, and Rene Angelil (Caesars is home turf for Angelil, who is the manager-husband of international diva, Celine Dion, who performs nightly next door at the $80 million Coliseum). But it was the tenth place finisher who was the biggest story of the day.

For poker players, there is no worse feeling than finishing on what is called “the bubble.” At the TOC, the unlucky tenth place finisher can boast of outlasting 103 opponents (out of 114). But the bottom line is that “the bubble” position pays absolutely nothing. Zilch. It’s tournament poker’s ultimate bad beat.

Poker legend Doyle Brunson suffered the cruelest of poker’s indignities when he was eliminated on the final hand of Day Two. It was a big disappointment for Brunson, a ten-time gold bracelet winner and two-time world poker champion. “Texas Dolly” was short-stacked throughout the tournament and was never able to be the dominant force which has characterized his unrivaled 50-year poker career. When Brunson moved his last $20,000 in chips into the pot, and lost, the entire audience gathered inside the Caesars Augustus Ballroom burst into applause. No one clapped more loudly, or with more reverence than his nine competitors, who were fortunate enough to return for Day Three.

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The nine finalists for the 2005 Tournament of Champions are now set for tomorrow’s third and final day:

Seat 1: Steve Dannenmann
Hometown: Severn, Maryland
Qualified Via: World Series of Poker (Main Event)
Chip Count: $122,000

No poker player is more modest than Steve Dannenmann. He is a 39-year-old CPA and mortgage broker who currently lives in Severn, Maryland. Dannenmann graduated from the University of Baltimore. He is married and has one child. Dannenmann shocked the poker world by outlasting 5,617 players in the main event at the 2005 World Series of Poker (WSOP). He came to within one big hand of achieving immortality, but ended up as the second place finisher to the world champion, Joseph Hachem. When he’s been asked about his incredible personal achievement and winning $4,250,000 in prize money, Dannemann is often reserved and says he is just lucky to be playing with so many great players. But the truth is now becoming self-evident. As he is proving in this event, Dannemann’s timid manner masks an awesome talent in tournament poker. It’s been said that no one remembers the second place finisher. But a victory in the Tournament of Champions will give Dannenmann the recognition he rightly deserves.


Seat 2: Grant “G-Money” Lang
Hometown: Brookfield, Connecticut
Qualified Via: Rio -- Las Vegas
Chip Count: $61,500

Grant Lang is accustomed to sitting in front of a huge stack of poker chips. He was the chip leader coming into his last final table, at the World Series of Poker Circuit held at the Rio-Las Vegas last February. Lang looked as if he would be a force, but he ended up as the fifth place finisher – netting $126,000. Lang’s poker nickname is “G-Money.” G-Money was born in Bronx, NY and now resides in Connecticut. He is married with three children. Prior to his appearance at the Rio, Lang’s biggest poker accomplishment was a victory at the Costa Rican Classic in 2004. Like so many others on this day, Lang has something to prove. We will see if G-Money can take a low stack and turn it into a million dollar first prize.


Seat 3: David Levi
Hometown: Las Vegas, Nevada
Qualified Via: Harrah’s Rincon – San Diego
Chip Count: $41,000

David Levi is one of the most experienced players at the final table. He has paid his dues for a decade on the poker tournament trail, grinding out a living with more than 100 cashes and numerous wins in his distinguished poker career. Levi, 42, became a full-time poker player after he retired as a professional soccer player ten years ago. Levi played on a pro soccer team in Tel Aviv, Israel. But today, his goal is different. While Levi has loads of tournament experience, what he does not have at the moment, is -- chips. He will start today as the shortest-stack at the final table. We will see if Levi can stage a huge comeback and score the biggest payday of his poker career.


Seat 4: Phil Hellmuth, Jr.
Hometown: Palo Alto, California
Qualified Via: Former WSOP Champion (sponsor exemption)
Chip Count: $281,500

If this poker tournament was a horserace, Phil Hellmuth is beginning to look a lot like Secretariat. He is on a pace to run wire-to-wire and win yet another poker title, adding to his distinguished 16-year career as a professional poker player. Hellmuth is the 1989 World Series of Poker champion. He has won a total of nine gold bracelets – second only to Doyle Brunson and Johnny Chan, each with ten. At this year’s World Series, Hellmuth drew even with another poker legend, Barry Johnston. Hellmuth now is tied for the most cashes ever in WSOP history. But what defines Hellmuth in the public eye is his mesmerizing personality. Love him, or hate him – he’s a superstar. You never know quite what to expect when Hellmuth is sitting at a poker table. In the 2004 Tournament of Champions, the former world champion finished an intolerable second, and some say he’s been fanatical about getting back here ever since. Today, we will see if Hellmuth – a successful author, conglomerate, and living poker legend – can redeem himself with a rousing TOC triumph, or will again storm away in disappointment. One way or another, it should be quite a show.


Seat 5: Hoyt Corkins
Hometown: Glenwood, Alabama
Qualified Via: Harrah’s Atlantic City
Chip Count: $95,000

Hoyt Corkins was born in rural Alabama and still lives in the “Heart of Dixie” when he’s not traveling around the world as a professional poker player. Corkins has emerged as one of poker’s most instantly recognizable players and likeable personalities. He’s made numerous final tables in recent years, but Corkins’ poker success dates all the way back to 1989, when he first made it to a WSOP final table. Two years later, in 1992, he won a gold bracelet – in the Pot-Limit Omaha championship. Corkins has won major events at the Diamond Jim Brady, Super Bowl of Poker, and other prestigious titles. But he has steadily earned the respect of his peers through not only his aggressive playing style, but his venerable character, which makes him one of the game’s true role models. Corkins is overdue for a big win, and this might be the day when the man in the cowboy hat rides off into the sunset with a $1 million first prize.


Seat 6: Keith Sexton
Hometown: Dayton, Ohio
Qualified Via: Harrah’s Rincon – San Diego
Chip Count: $95,500

Keith Sexton is a 55-year-old real estate investor turned poker pro and sports bettor. He is originally from Ohio and now lives in Las Vegas. He has played at the World Series of Poker eight times and has several in-the-money finishes, including an impressive second place finish in the 2005 Seven-Card Stud world championship event. In a recent interview, when Sexton was asked what person had the most influence in teaching him the game of poker, he answered with great respect and reverence – his mother. Sexton is certainly a serious threat at this final table, and with just enough chips to be dangerous, he will be one of the players to watch.


Seat 7: Brandon Adams
Hometown: New Orleans, Louisiana
Qualified Via: Harrah’s New Orleans
Chip Count: $135,500

If ever there was someone you want to cheer for, it’s Brandon Adams. He finished 21st in the championship event at Harrah’s New Orleans last May, and due to a bizarre eight-way tie in the scoring system, he barely qualified to play in the TOC. That said, Adams blocked out the devastation that was caused to his hometown by Hurricane Katrina a few months ago, and has made the most of this unique opportunity. He has played exceptional poker over two days and has soared into third place in the chip count. The great thing about tournament poker is that, truly – anything is possible. Adams will need to use his aura of anonymity to pull off what would be an astonishing surprise victory. Perhaps today, a new poker superstar will be born and eight unsuspecting opponents will stagger away, wondering how an unfamiliar face from hurricane-ravaged New Orleans got some overdue measure of rightful justice.


Seat 8: Tony Bloom
Hometown: London, England
Qualified Via: Harrah’s Rincon – San Diego
Chip Count: $130,000

Tony Bloom, from London, England, is the only non-US resident at today’s final table. But he is certainly no stranger to the final table, especially at big events in Europe and overseas. Bloom’s biggest tournament win was in the main event at the 2004 Australasian Poker Championship, where he won $400,000. He also won London’s prestigious Victoria Club poker championship held in August – good for another $350,000. Today, we will see if Bloom can parlay an 18th place finish at Rincon last February into a $1 million first prize.


Seat 9: Mike Matusow
Hometown: Las Vegas, Nevada
Qualified Via: World Series of Poker (Main Event)
Chip Count: $179,000

Matusow is one of poker’s most controversial figures. He is famous, make that infamous, for baiting his opponents and incessantly chattering while he is playing. If there was a lifetime record for most time-out penalties given in World Series of Poker history for foul language and inappropriate behavior, Mike Matusow would be Doyle Brunson, Johnny Chan, and Phil Hellmuth -- all rolled into one. Mike “The Mouth” Matusow has won two gold bracelets at the World Series. Perhaps even more impressive, Matusow has made it to two final tables in the main event over the past four years. He finished fourth in 2001. He finished ninth in 2005. His most recent cash was worth $1 million in prize money. Whatever happens today, this has been an incredible personal odyssey and triumphant comeback for Matusow. He was admittedly at the lowest point in his life at the start of 2005, and now as the end of the year approaches, Matusow is unquestionably playing the best poker of his life. If you don’t believe it – just ask him.


The nine finalists will return to play for the TOC title in front of ESPN television cameras and a live viewing audience. Play resumes at 2:00 pm PST. Prize money will be divided, as follows:

1st Place -- $1,000,000
2nd Place – $325,000
3rd Place – $250,000
4th Place – $150,000
5th Place – $100,000
6th Place – $75,000
7th Place – $50,000
8th Place – $25,000
9th Place – $25,000



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Official Report by Nolan Dalla – World Series of Poker Media Director
Caesars Poker Room Manager – Michael Matts
Tournament Director – Robert Daily
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Was last year's TOC (the one where Annie Duke came in 1st and Phil 2nd) just a 9-10 player tourney? Did they have any criteria last year? If I recall it was Raymer, Ivey, Daniel N, Duke, Chan, TJ, Phil, Doyle, Lederer and one or two others? Sounds like they just picked the group last year as oppose to any entry requirements.
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Of course there had to be an ugly greedy story behind it.



A national Pepsi marketing campaign? Wow.
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Very interesting. The thing is, there would have been such a happy solution here. Harrahs was willing to shell out $2 million for this. When Pepsi offered to cought up the dough and demanded their "exceptions," Harrahs should have told them they needed to cought up $2.5 million. If Pepsi balked at the idea, Harrahs could have chipped in a half a mil from their own pocket (still saving themselves $1.5 million) and everyone would be happy.

3 new players. $500,000 more. I don't think a single qualifier would complain, and everyone would be happy.
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Really? Come on? He's so pretentious. At least Matusow is joking when he talks about being so much better than everybody else. He knows as well as everybody else just how fucked up he is.

And if ya'll aren't reading the Cardplayer updates, you should be. It's hilarious, and this is gonna make for great tv.

P.S. How can anybody pull for Phil when he shouldn't have ever been there?
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Hard as it is to admit, I'm rooting for the Mouth. He's a much better poker player than people give him credit for...
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Great updates... I just glanced through them. I can't wait to see this on tv.

Of the quotes, this one was my favorite:
"Hellmuth is asked by the tournament director to stack his chips, as they are spread out over a large area in front of him. Hellmuth lightly challenges him, and it's not long before he and Matusow are back into it. Eventually, even Steve Dannenmann jumps into things, saying that as a professional poker player, he isn't acting very professionally. They exchange a few more words, and Dannenmann caps it off by saying, "Nobody should buy your books or CDs, because you're a punk." Phil is taking a lot of abuse today, but he seems to be taking it very well. Of course, some would say he's had a lot of practice."

But I liked this one a lot too:
"Tournament Director Jimmy Sommerfeld asks the audience to give a round of applause to ESPN and SoBe's new energy drink (Adrenaline Rush) for sponsoring this event. Mike Matusow then asks the crowd to give a round of applause to Harrah's for inviting Phil Hellmuth to show up and take all of their money. The crowd applauds, but it's likely that only a dozen or so really get the joke."

Actually, this is pretty damn good stuff too. I've found a whole new respect for Steve Dannerman in these past couple of weeks:
"In between hands, Dannenmann gives Matusow a wrapped gift. Matusow asks, "Is it the four million you stole from me this summer?" (Referring to the World Series final table.) It's a small globe, similar to the one that Dannenmann uses as a card protector. He explains that he and Matusow were sitting next to each other on day one, and Matusow kept singing, "He's got the whole world in his hands," referring to the globe.


Phil Hellmuth then takes a moment to tell the TV cameras, "Merry Christmas," because this is scheduled to air on Christmas Eve. The crowd lets out a condescending "Awwwww."


Dannenmann has also given Hellmuth a gift, which he opens, ignoring the fact that it could be dangerous. The box is opened, and he pulls out a stuffed donkey. The crowd has a great laugh, but Phil takes it in good spirits.


The action is coming fast and furious ... and we've only had four hands so far."
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