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Old 02-15-06, 10:20 AM
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well I logged onto party the other day to use up my FPP points before they take them away from me and noticed about 15 $1 tournies, 10 $2 ones and about 5 $3 ones. Seems like a good attempt to get more players there since stars micro limit tournies are soo popular. What im wondering is if we are gonna see party introduce micro limit cash games like stars has. I have seen such a great drop in Parties buisness latley and I figure Stars is alot to do with that. Im actully happy to see Party introduce these games in bulk like they have now, they have always had a couple $1 and $2 ones but the amount they have now is nice.

So what do you think is next in the agenda for Party? Anything else you think they can do to compete with Stars who seem to be comming out with new good ideas weekly.
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Old 02-15-06, 12:08 PM
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I don't see this "great drop" in Party's business, but maybe I haven't looked as hard as you.

I will say that the VIP accelerator bonus that party just introduced a week ago (runs for 8 weeks) blows the VIP program at Stars out of the water in my eyes. I still think Stars is trying to compete with them and not the other way around.

Stars #s approach party's, and on some nights, they have more players. However, Stars has waaaaaaaayyy more play money rejects. Also, they have the micro stakes games that you talk about. I doubt that this slight edge in traffic produces as much rake party is taking on a regular basis.

Also, Stars hasn't had a good idea since the VIP program came about. I don't know what they're doing weekly.

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Old 02-17-06, 07:55 PM
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low/microlimits are so popular because the overwhelming majority of ppl who play online poker today are low/microrollers.

simple as that...

stars was very smart from the beginning to attract and nurture this huge customer base by pumping up the $1 SNGs to the max, among other things.
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Old 02-17-06, 08:26 PM
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If there is one thing that Party did right was that they never foolishly added nano-limit tables. Gamblers will keep reloading and playing, so there is no need to set up these tables unless the business running them wants less rake.
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Old 02-17-06, 09:38 PM
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But why keep people who want to pay you to play from doing so? It can't cost that much to have a few more tables that are low limits.
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Old 02-17-06, 11:01 PM
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The main point with low limit tables is people tend to play BAD poker, so...
They lose a little at a time, but it becomes a lot in the long run.
Why does intertopspoker.com have
$10 + $1 SNG
and
$5 + $1 SNG
Because people many times can only afford the $5 + $1
and their profit margin is that much more.
Quantity of hands(and loose play) vs Expensive rake.
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Old 02-19-06, 04:13 AM
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i beg to differ somewhat.

the main value of the low/micro buyin tourneys (say roughly $1-$5) is actually twofold:

-allows firsttimers plenty of chances to create their first workable roll (u get up to 50 buyins on $1 vs 'only' 10 if the min buyin is $5)

-allows low/microrollers (who again i repeat are the overwhelming majority of all online poker players nowadays) to maintain/replenish their roll without redepositing too often for comfort, which runs the real risk of losing some, if not most of them to online poker for good, never mind the poker site in question

finally, what worked well for stars is more than obvious. to this day, their $1 SNGs (not even to mention the lowest limit cash games and/or other low buyin regular tourneys and such) have literally thousands, if not tens of thousands of ppl daily, esp in peak hrs. in fact, there are more players at this level on stars than there are total players on whole other sites combined!
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