Wild B&M Games

BlackCoffee · #1 09-21-05, 04:29 PM

How can one beat wild B&M games?

There's 5-10 game at the local casino and it's just crazy. Always 6 or 7 in before the flop and usually 3 or 4 to the river (raised or not it doesnt matter) The other day there was 8 in on a raised kill pot which a guy won when he made a full house playing 4-3 off

Im trying to play tight and sensible but im absolutely getting destroyed the last couple of weeks. Gut shots, runner runner everything. Example, I had KK raised and bet all the way and lost to 4s6s runner runner, flop was Q107

Any strategies or am I just having bad luck and cant beat these terrible players.

Thanks,

BlackCoffee

Aequitas58 · #2 09-21-05, 04:32 PM

Small Stakes Hold'Em, Miller/Sklansky. I think the book was written specifically for this type of game.

Talking Poker · #3 09-21-05, 04:40 PM

Great tip.

You just have to ride it out. It takes a LOT of hands to reach the long run, but in the long run, if you play better than these guys (and I'm certain you do), you will make a fortune.

BlackCoffee · #4 09-21-05, 05:06 PM

Thanks guys,

I've read small stakes but it been awhile so i'll have to re-read it. Im in the middle of super systems 2 right now.

People always say Im fortunate to play in such a loose game night after night and week after week. The players at my casino have gotten worse and worse over time. So as I should making a fortune in the long run.. but I cant even win a hand.. suckout after suckout for huge pots. Losing alot of sessions.. $400 here, $500 there, it really adds up. Im going to stick it out til the end of the year but if things dont change..i'll have to reconsider. 6 months of suckouts takes would its toll on anyone

PShabi · #5 09-21-05, 05:24 PM

The question should be "How can one NOT beat wild B&M games?"

Assuming you're solid, you're just hitting a bad streak. Keep grindin.

ChipFish · #6 09-22-05, 01:06 AM

Any suited ace is playable in any position for any bet.

Theoretically, you are almost getting the odds to call with any two cards...
The difference between you and the others calling with any two?
You know when to let a hand go.

Stick with the top 10 hands and suitedconnectors and any suited ace and you'll kill these games.

BlackCoffee · #7 10-01-05, 04:46 PM

Bit of an update

I won a bad beat! I got 50% of $7300! I had AA and the other guy had QQ.
QQ5 on the flop, 7 on the turn, and ACE on the river! Woohoo! Minimum for bad beat at this casino is Aces over 10s.

But as for the normal grind, it still sucks. Im still losing as I cant hit a really big pot and I still keep getting run over.. like AA losing to A2. A2 hits a 2 on flop and immediately bets into me.. i raise and he calls. Of course a 2 on the turn and he bets again! ARGH!

This place is so wild. It's a 5-10 kill game. Always 6 or 7 in. I raised a kill pot under the gun with Ah Kh once and it turned into a family pot. Yes, $100 pot before the flop. A guy hit a set on a garbage flop so I got rid of it fast.

BlackCoffee

Aequitas58 · #8 10-01-05, 05:23 PM

For a minute there, I thought you were describing the $7.50/$15 game at the Trop 3 years ago.

lightfungus · #9 10-01-05, 05:49 PM

...and that ladies and gentlemen, is why I don't play limit!

BlackCoffee · #10 10-01-05, 05:49 PM

Actually, I've been to a few casinos in different cities.. this is becoming more the norm than the exception. I've been in loose games everywhere. People play anything suited, anything connected, anything almost connected, bet any pair, raised not raised, it doesnt matter.

I dont know where people are learning to play poker, but it's not from the same school that we all did

eddo31 · #11 10-03-05, 12:16 AM

have a big enough bankroll to handle the swings from the wild play, and play normal solid poker. i would add a couple of hands that will play well multiway, such as suited aces and kings, and lower my requirements for suited connectors.
play small pairs as well, but only for trips.

dont worry about winning more pots, just try to win big ones.