Rebuy Question

Nikita · #1 03-02-06, 09:17 AM

Ok, I'm thinking of trying the $3.30 rebuy tourney on stars. But, I want to make sure my new bankroll can actually handle it. I've seen posts on bankroll size for normal tourneys, but what should your bankroll be for a rebuy? I know I should expect to make one rebuy and an add on, so I'm guessing I should consider the buy-in to be at least $9. Is this what I use to calculate what size of bankroll I should have? Or do I also add in a few more rebuys? If so how many?

bunny · #2 03-02-06, 10:37 AM

I've tried a few of those $3.30 rebuy tournaments and I've strategized the many different ways in playing in them. Let me start off by saying you should use whatever is most comfortable for you in the end.

The one I found to be most amusing is the hyper-aggressive style. Most people look at my picture and say "oh blondie, she'll be easy to take down." So, I have to make sure they change the way they perceive me.

First few hands is the key to getting the table to cooperate with you. Bet all ins if you must, just to let them know you're there to gamble and have the funds to blow. Getting a big stack early on is a huge advantage. As soon as I get a stack I'm comfortable with, I ease up and not gamble as much.

In a $3.30 rebuy tournament, I'd be willing to make at least 5 rebuys, max 10.
Set yourself to a certain amount of rebuys you'll make during the tourney. If you don't, you might just lose more than you planned on losing. I once started tilting and blew more than I wanted to in one of these tourneys. Now I leave only the allotted amount I want to play with in my account, this way when I click to get more money....there's none.

Talking Poker · #3 03-02-06, 11:33 AM

I agree with some of whay bunny is saying and disagree with the rest. Yes, a big stack is a huge advantage (and if precisely why those unwilling to rebuy AND add-on shouldn not play in rebuy tourneys), but that whole bit about not leaving yourself enough funds to rebuy (or add-on), I think that's a terrible idea. What if it comes time to add-on and you want to buy don't have the money now? Anyone purposely shortchanging themselves for a rebuy tourney also shouldn't be in it, because they are playing over their bankroll.

Your are looking at 3 buy ins minimum (buy in, initial rebuy, add on), but I think a safer "average" is in the 7 neighborhood. Many times, you will get away with 5 or even just 3, but there will be that odd time or two when it takes 11+, so I think 7 is a nice conservative average to use. Your average will probably end up being less than that (more like 5), but like I said, it's conservative.

In other words, for a $3 rebuy tourney, think of it as a $20 tourney.

Nikita · #4 03-02-06, 11:53 AM

Thanks, TP. I think I may hold off on this rebuy then. I have the bankroll now to buy in for $20, but just barely. No point in putting a strain on it just yet, especially since I really don't have that much rebuy experience. I've railed a few forum members in other rebuys and some of the plays are just crazy. Without being experienced, I can definitely see a rebuy for me ending up on the more expensive side.

Talking Poker · #5 03-02-06, 12:08 PM

I think a $1 rebuy for you would be great practice, if you can find one. Otherwise, keep getting experience in regular tourneys first.

The biggest advantage of playing in a rebuy tourney is when you play in it properly (basically buying yourself a nice stack), it's a very big advantage over the players who play them incorrectly (trying not to rebuy - not even taking the INITIAL rebuy, for example... huge donkey flag). Often times I'm only around the average at the break, but I love it when I have 2x or more at that point. Having that big stack at the break (not to mention a maniac image) makes it MUCH easier to go deep. Just immediately switch to your normal game, but use that stack to your advantage.

bunny · #6 03-02-06, 12:17 PM

I agree with with your $20 cost on the rebuy tourney. I added an extra $10, which should be more than enough to get through it. If I need to go over the $33 mark, I should cut my losses and part said tourney.

I don't think I'd call it shortchanging myself. Prudent is a better word for it. What if tournament isn't playing out as you planned it would, you begin to tilt and keep on dipping into your bankroll? When do you stop? Till your roll runs out? Or is it best to set a limit?

After all that is said and done, if you still wish to go over the 'set amount', it's easily attainable using your neteller account. I wouldn't suggest it, but it's still easy enough to deposit more on the break, just before the add on period.

Talking Poker · #7 03-02-06, 01:11 PM

If you say so. I just don't see any need to make it any more difficult than it needs to be. If $30 is all you want to spend and after spending that, you're almost to the break and have a bunch of great players at your table that you know you can't beat, don't rebuy. Simple enough.

But if you're at a table with a bunch of donkeys, and you've accumulated some chips and things are looking good finally, even though you're in for $30 so far, I think it would be crazy to not take the add on for $3 more. So why give yourself the headache of having to redeposit and all that crap, hoping you can get it done in time, when all you needed to do was click the button?

And during the rebuy period, I know you don't have time to redeposit, etc.

All I'm saying is rather than create potential problems by hiding money from yourself, just have a little disclipline.

You call it "prudent." I call it "lack of self control." If you can't stop yourself from buying in to poker games without hiding money from yourself, you have far bigger problems to worry about...