Live Poker Sucks

[Boobie Lover]

Seriously, the title says it all. It is SO boring. Full ring is already absymal. Then, everyone takes at least two minutes to make a tough decision. Hurray the fuck up people. Oh yeah, lets not forget the great dealer mistakes either.

This rant is probably influenced by me dropping 2k today at live games, but it still doesn't change the fact that live poker is horrid. If the online poker thing becomes unplayable in the near future, there is no way will I ever become a live pro.

[jillaj]

HURRAY SLOW FUCKS!!

[Talking Poker]

Oh, come on... you can get in almost 5% as many hands in live play as you can online, assuming you multitable. And don't forget the increased rake!

I still enjoy playing lie FROM TIME TO TIME, but for any serious player, online is where the money is at, IMO. The sheer volume of hands you can play is reason enough to play online, and nothing else can make up for that.

[Zybomb]

Eh blow me

You guys think online players are bad, but believe me, the loose fish at the live tables are much much worse. I realize you dont get in as many hands, but the amount you can win off bad plays is sick (sicker than most online tables). I mean any time you regularlly have 6-8 players seeing an unraised flop, and 4 players seeing a raised one, you know some ppl r donating money.

As for rake, $5 for a half hour isnt bad IMO

Two examples from tonights play

-I had a player bet into me with A6 on a 356 board in a limp pot $25. I raised to 75 with the nuts (74), he reraised to $425 all in with A6 (the fact that he turned a 5 and rivered a 6 is irrelivant)

- I raise UTG with AA to $30. 1 call, then the BB reraises $100 ontop. I reraise to $300 total (another $170) and this player pushes all in for roughly $900 with QQ

[Boobie Lover]

I don't see how hand 2 is badly played unless you are the biggest nit in the world.

[Talking Poker]

That happens online too - about 10x as frequently (multitabling, faster games, etc), in fact.

[Kurn]

Not only that, but when somebody's being a complete ass at your table, you can't just shut off his chat.

[GeoffM]

LOL.

You also don't earn FPPs that you can use to buy cool merchandise and put towards buyins

[Zybomb]

I cant possibly call that bet unless he's beat -- also three betting UTG from a BB reraise light is pretty dangerous IMO. If he thought he was good the line was to call and act on the flop

[Boobie Lover]

I know that live poker is softer than online, but those two examples weren't that bad. Search for GimmeNutz on Full Tilt playing 3/6 or 5/10 NL on a nightly basis, he'll probably be there and do something far more retarded than those two examples.

[Robbie Robb]

Well....you can....but then security usually gets involved and possibly the police.

[Zybomb]

Thanx , Will Do!

[X-Longshot-X]

I personally like playing live vrs online. Online people picture you as some punk ass kid out to take their money. Live, especially at the weekly game, which is mostly my moms friends from work is nice because they give me pots because of how i look. they dont think little 'ol me could bluff them out of the pot. Also i am able to read people much better live. In the long run there is more money to be made online but your decisions can be much easier sometimes live when you can base it off of tells.

[Talking Poker]

You don't get any of your rake back either.

[Talking Poker]

That guy redefinied "bad" when I was doing a lot of datamining a couple of months ago. Like, we're talking SCARY bad. He must be absolutely loaded in the real world. Like, a rich doctor or lawyer or something. No normal person can afford to lose as much as he does week in and week out.

The waiting lists for his tables always make me chuckle.

[Talking Poker]

If you believe this, nothing else matters. Every other point you could possibly make (other than "it's more social/fun/whatever") is insignificant.

[X-Longshot-X]

He isnt a rich doctor in fact he isnt a he at all. I have come to the conclusion that this is the ex wife of a rich doctor or lawyer who has nothing better to do with the alamoney other than pad another players bankroll

[X-Longshot-X]

If you are playing for a living, then yes nothing else matters, But if you are in a situation like myself where i play pretty much recreationally than you should take other things into account. Plus i only Like live better, if i got serious serious about poker then i know online is the better choice

[Boobie Lover]

Live is only tolerable when you are playing with people that you know, and becomes only slightly amusing if alcohol is involved. Regular live casino action though still resolves to tedious boredom.

[Robbr25]

I like both.
Mainly because reading people live is challenging.
I like that part of live poker that you miss(mostly) online.

[lightfungus]

Maybe because I suck at poker online or something, but I made a majority of my winnings in poker this year in live play. My reads are much more accurate, and the play is much much worse IMO. Zybomb is correct.

[PShabi]

This may sound harsh, but your mom must work with some fat sons of bitches.

[sjay2k]

zomg i just tried live poker

5/10 half-pot at the local casino

so so so silly

trip report

first hand i have KQ and raise to 20 (apparently u can only min raise in half pot preflop?) and get called by 3 players.

flop JT9 rainbow. I half-pot and get called by two players.

turn 2. I half-pot and get called by one player.

river 6. I half-pot, and the other player (plebbish looking middle-age guy) tanks for like five minutes and declares that he's folding; disgustedly tabling pocket 5s (what?). he then proceeds to rave on about how he "can't win a hand" etc.

each hand takes a few minutes and i proceed to get trashed exceptionally quickly (perhaps evident in this post still). beers and daquiris (sp?).

i get no playable cards while the table fish proceed to dump about 5k to the other young guy on the table (who is pretty bad in his on right, btw).

i raise KcTc on the button, nearly the whole table calls. flop QcJc6d. sb leads, bb calls, a few others call and i half-pot. only the bb calls. turn is a 7h and it goes check-check. river 7s and the bb leads out for half-pot. i fold and he shows 89o (what?).

the dealer then squanders 15 minutes of my life trying to work out how to use the dealing machine. more beers consumed here i believe.

i raise 88 on the button and the blinds call. flop 852 rainbow. check, check, i bet half-pot and the bb calls. turn T- the bb check-calls another half-pot bet. river K- the bb check-folds to me, flinging 23o to the muck, mumbling about AK and luck. i can hardly stop myself laughing because i'm so so drunk at this point.

i raise J9s from the cutoff against two limpers and get called five times (obv). flop J83 (two diamonds). checked to me, i half-pot, and utg (terrible,terrible lagfish) calls. the turn is an offsuit 9 and utg min check-raises me. i go allin for not much more (maybe 200 into a 1300 pot i think). he thinks for three minutes, uttering nonsense like "i think we have the same hand" and then, seemingly reluctantly, calls with QTo (nice call, sometimes i fold the nuts personally) and stacks me.

i get more drunk and go home. i'm never playing live poker again. the people are so obnoxious/borderline-retarded, the game is absurdly slow and alcohol impedes my pokering abilities.

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[lightfungus]

That stuff entertains me, but that form of NL seems like a headache. Just imagine if you were paying NL with them...! Oh, and thats why I don't drink when I play...

[sjay2k]

also the lucky young player tells me he normally plays $20 sngs on the internet and i think his buyin represented about 1/2 of his bankroll. well done