Doyle Arrested?

[Kurn]

There's a thread on FCP that says there's a rumor going around LA (now there's some hard evidence! ) that Doyle Brunson has been arrested, but nobody seems to know for what or even if its true. I did some quick googling and found nothing.

[Talking Poker]

Sounds like a rumor to me!

Dutch Boyd died in a similar rumor a few years back.

That said, I've been wondering how long it will be until guys like Doyle, Daniel, the FTP pros, etc, start having trouble with the DoJ. I just can't see how they can have any ownership in their sites - regardless of where the servers are located, etc - legally. Getting paid to wear logos and advertise a site is one thing, but if you are an actual owner who is involved in the business decisions of said site... I dunno....

[Reel Deal]

Although, owning a site wasn't made illegal by the recently enacted law. Of course, neither was prior ownership of an internet based money transfer system and that didn't seem to stop the DOJ so, yeah, who knows.

[Talking Poker]

Exactly.

They could be going after him on some sort of Money Laundering charges or something.

[eejit101]

from APCW/CAP/and the world wide webness this is a pile of bullchit i can see.


The best thing for us would surely be doyle being arrested?

Id love to see know how that would go.

Discuss that.

[MAYHEM45]

See, everyone who has been arrested so far is a nobody to the general population. You arrest Texas Dolly though and the Uprising begins. Revolution time baby, lets burn this bitch to the ground.

[Kurn]

Not to rain on your parade, but Doyle Brunson isn't exactly a household name in the US either.

[Talking Poker]

He is in the poker world.

[Kurn]

It would make a big impact on the poker world, but that in and of itself would not even attract attention in congress, unfortunately.

[Talking Poker]

Sure. But it may be enough to get the otherwise indifferent poker players (ahem) to get off their asses and do something, rather than to just wait and see how things play out.

[eejit101]

Contrary to what TP said, as i know he didnt actually mean all of it im HOPING, but ill admit i am lazy so thats bit is fair, joining the PPA isnt the only way to go. while yes you will feel like you have done something, youve just donated $20 that wont do much int he end because no-one in that organisation seems to have actually done anything exciting with their time. No to save this turning into a PPA discussion....


Arresting Doyle Brunson for some kind of laundering/federal crime charge, whatever the fuck they are gonna throw at him they will if they decide to do it, as they know Doyle is going to throw money at them with law suits e.t.c, has to be the best thing that can happen for this problem.

People outside of poker may know his name, people watch ESPN but dont play or follow the game much, but may enjoy watching some skilled professionals compete in the poker environment, it is gripping stuff sometimes. Part time players, the average sunday guy who deposits and loses $50 ebcause he is bored and enjoys it, might pay attention. Media coverage would grow byt hudnerds if not thousands of %. Chat shows would take mroe interest, John Stewart did something but he is so sartrycal that isnt the best outlet for our needs.


If they arrest Brunson, Negreanu, Ferguson, any of the FT Pros, fuck, anyone famous, its a good thing for the "cause".

I am holding the right though is Chris Ferguson gets arrested for all future "In jail for torture of bananas jokes"



Well, i mean for once ive started a good discussion right?

[ashmc2]

It would be enough to start the media cover of our plight to the nation and get the ball rolling on the subject.

[2Tone]

For what it is worth, this rumor has proven to be false.

[Talking Poker]

Damn that was one hard to read thread. I didn't understand most of it, but I am wondering about this part. What the hell does this mean?

I seriously can't even figure out what you are talking about. You need to work on your English writing skills or something.

[eejit101]

Umm, the cheap lazy bastard thing i was going for.

Like i said, i dont know how much you resent me for that, or if thats all true, or you like making me look small or whatever, i was just trying to make a good post. And yes the typing is too fast, and i should pay more attention.

[Kurn]

Now, I know you didn't miss this:

because you posted a reply in it (though not to my original post).

[Kurn]

I would hope it would, but the operant word there is *hope*

Here's reality:

Point 1 (the value of Brunson's name)

I've been playing in the same home game for 7+ years. 2/3 of the 15 or so semi-regulars in that game have never heard of Doyle Brunson. Small sample, yes, but also NOT a cross-section of the US. This group differs from the average US citizen in that 1) they are more educated (avg eduction University degree +) and 2) they play poker regularly.

They are for the most part only vaguely aware of the recent legislation and arrests. Now in their case, media coverage would be a good thing since most are fairly libertarian minded.

Point 2 (the reality of what we are fighting)

We tend to look at the legislation and think "those damn legislators are trying to screw us." That's fine as far as it goes, but the legislators do not exist in a vacuum. The problem is much bigger than the 535 Senators and Congressmen. I'd wager that if you put up a national referendum question on the 2008 ballot that read "should internet gambling be legal?" it would not pass.

Just this past election there was a ballot question on building a casino in Rhode Island. Now to be clear, billions of dollars of gambling revenue either leaves or drives through RI every year. You would think that from a purely revenue-generation perspective enough people who don't care one way or the other about gambling would agree that a casino in the state would make financial sense. Guess again. The measure failed by a big margin (60% against).

I'm not preaching doom and gloom here. I still think that the free market finds a way to bring supply to demand. The government hasn't stopped drugs in schools, I doubt it can stop gambling in cyberspace.

No doom and gloom, just a little dose of realistic expectations. maybe its just that I'm more like the pre-internet poker players. That the power-that-be may define me as an outlaw for what I do in my spare time just doesn't bother me all that much.

Its an uphill battle, no doubt.

[melioris]

In memory of your past, or more acurately, the past I have created for you from the bits and pieces I know.

[Kurn]