Poker Cheating

[melioris]

check out this thread at . The OP should be required reading for anyone who plays poker.

Other than Gavin Smith's pseudo-endorsement of cheating in the linked interview, Erik Lindgren is the first named pro outed (from a seemingly reliable source) for "ghosting". More names should be coming.

Iggy over at had a pretty concerning the UB scandal, and possible AP situation. The letter linked in the blog post comes from Gank, one of the handful of people who did the investigative work that broke the scandal, ie he probably is reliable which is shocking considering what he says.

[Talking Poker]

Awesome post in the 2+2 thread. Thanks for the link. Props to Greg Raymer for what he said and props to the players at the PCA for refusing to play with JJProdigy. Cheaters need to be ousted, banned, and shunned. It's the only way to prevent (or at least decrease) this sort of behavior in the future.

Being out of town with limited online time, can someone please give a quick Reader's Digest version of what's going on with UB (I read the Gank post, but I assume there is much more than that)?

Thanks.

[Invigilator]

I was very glad to see the PCA's action against JJ. Regardless of where he is in his life right now, it sends the right message

Gotta love the "I know, but I am not going to say" stance that Gavin Smith is apparently taking.

[JDMcNugent7]

I talk to alot of the higher stakes players now like 10/20 and 25/50, and seriously almost all of them have 2nd and even 3rd accounts.

I feel like it happens way more than the average person knows about, and i feel like it's almost the same way as using something like HGH in baseball, where everyone does it b/c at the time it wasn't technically illegal but they know it's wrong and know they shouldnt do it but do it to get ahead anyway.

At the end of poker I want to be able to say I never did anything shady to earn my $ so I just decided I'm never going to have a 2nd account or use friends or anything.

[Invigilator]

This is one of those things where "tip of the ice-berg" doesn't even begin to cover it. Time to break out the beer and the popcorn

This is just the poker version of the popular mentality in society: If people don't die, or you don't get caught, then how wrong can it be?

[helmuths henchman]

Lets say one of us got caught would be banned by all sites or the one that caught us?

[jillaj]

most likely only the one that caught you.

[Wes]

this is way way way different than what JJprodigy does/did.

[JDMcNugent7]

ya but its still wrong i think

[GTDawg]

HGH and steroid use is not as rampant as most people seem to believe.

I'm not saying that it isn't there...but it's not the OMG EVERYBODY IS USING IT BASEBALL IS FULL OF CHEATERS that some people seem to believe.