well then

[kkirk1329]

PokerStars Game #1578176308: Tournament #6459496, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/04/24 - 15:10:19 (ET)
Table '6459496 18' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Reeb10 (3960 in chips)
Seat 2: DrKneenie (1450 in chips)
Seat 3: bertie0606 (1460 in chips)
Seat 4: xx C A J xx (1420 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: johnnieheart (1210 in chips)
Seat 6: kkirk1329 (2550 in chips)
Seat 7: candi28 (1250 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: krutguy (1460 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: Heather24 (1440 in chips) is sitting out
xx C A J xx: posts small blind 10
johnnieheart: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kkirk1329 [8d Kh]
kkirk1329: calls 20
candi28: folds
krutguy: folds
Heather24: folds
Reeb10: folds
DrKneenie: calls 20
bertie0606: calls 20
xx C A J xx: folds
johnnieheart: checks
*** FLOP *** [8h 7d Kd]
johnnieheart: checks
kkirk1329: bets 20
DrKneenie: calls 20
bertie0606: folds
johnnieheart: calls 20
*** TURN *** [8h 7d Kd] [Ts]
johnnieheart: checks
kkirk1329: bets 60
DrKneenie: calls 60
johnnieheart: raises 140 to 200
kkirk1329: raises 2310 to 2510 and is all-in
DrKneenie: folds
johnnieheart: calls 970 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [8h 7d Kd Ts] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
johnnieheart: shows [Ac Ah] (three of a kind, Aces)
kkirk1329: shows [8d Kh] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
johnnieheart collected 2550 from pot
kkirk1329 said, "woooow"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2550 | Rake 0
Board [8h 7d Kd Ts As]
Seat 1: Reeb10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DrKneenie folded on the Turn
Seat 3: bertie0606 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: xx C A J xx (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: johnnieheart (big blind) showed [Ac Ah] and won (2550) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 6: kkirk1329 showed [8d Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights
Seat 7: candi28 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: krutguy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Heather24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Zybomb]

wow there are kind of things wrong with this hand -- and im gunna go alittle rough on my critique of this hand.....sorry

First of all, limping in UTG with k8 off suit is never a smart play. You did flop two pair, which will happen sometimes, but more times than not you are wasting your money calling, or will waste more money being outkicked when your king hits.

The guy in the BB with pocket Aces is ridiculous for allowing 3 people to join him in this flop with no raise. He's ASKING to get outdrawn (and he was, serves him right)

Flop hits....You bet waaaaaaaay too little on the flop (although in this case he would of been around anyway) There was a flush draw on the board, a straight draw on the board, and your two pair, although most likely ahead at this point, was very very vulnerable and with your bet you are inviting anyone with any kind of a draw (including bottom pair with an over) to stay around for dirt cheap.

Keep in mind the guy with aces is playing the hand equally as bad, as he just calls...... again ASKING someone to outdraw him

The 10 hit on the turn, which could of completed someone's straight now, there is still a flush draw on the board, and again I don't like your bet still waaaaaaaay too small. Now the AA decides to raise....you push in he calls

In this case it wouldnt of mattered, bc he wasnt on a draw, he had Aces. And yea it sucks that you flopped 2 pair and he rivered one of his two remaining outs on you. You were over a 5 to 1 underdog preflop though, so its just a case of him reoutdrawing you, after you outdrew him. Overall playing K8off in any position outside of a very short handed table is very unprofitable, especially UTG....... but it is a unfortunate beat that he hit one of his 2 remaining outs

[kkirk1329]

it was a freeroll, and there were only liek 4 people that showed up at the table, i shoudlve mentioned this, people were coming in everypot trying to get the blinds

[Aequitas58]

I didn't read all of this, but the first few paragraphs were on point. I'll go out on a limb and say that I agree.

[kkirk1329]

i agree i shoulda bet some on the flop and more on the turn but i was just saying that those 2+ outers hurt lol

[Zybomb]

lol.......... Lazy ass

[nutbag]

He had 8 outs. Two aces, three sevens, three tens. With the freeroll thing, i guess this wasn't a bad call, but why not raise with this if only 4 people are playing, gives you a better idea of where you are. I always bet two pair hard on the flop with any reasonalbe draws present, because they will most likely call anyway, especially on a freeroll. Aces played this hand horribly, you just got unlucky playing a solid flop weak.