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Old 10-17-06, 12:16 PM
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was at Taj last night and was wondering something, dude bet into my buddie on the river and my buddie called and the dude showed the winning hand and my buddie tried to muck his hand. The other guy requested to show his hand and the dealer showed my buddies hand. We got into a discussion because some of us thought the person could muck without showing but the dealer and player said if requested he had to show hand. Is this true if it goes to showdown the other player HAS to show.
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Old 10-17-06, 12:59 PM
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If there is a showdown, you don't HAVE to show your cards. If someone asks to see them (anyone at the table), they are entitled to though. The main reason for this would be if someone was suspected of cheating, but obviously that wasn't the case last night. The guy who asked, while in his right, was being quite classless. Most people don't ask to see other people's hands when they try to much them. It's rare (because it's such a dick move), but it is allowed.

If someone were to be asking to see people's cards repeatedly (abusing their right), they could/would be given a warning from a floorperson to ease up...

Think of it as legal, but bad sportsmanship.
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Old 10-17-06, 01:01 PM
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K thanks, he seemed like a jerk, he was like its my right to see the cards.
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once thebet was called the bettor has to show his cards... once he does and it's the winner, your buddies hand should be thrown into the muck (by him not by the dealer)... and once it is it can not be seen even if a player requests so . If it is folded but not in the muck, it can then be turned over if someone requests to see it...this is supposed to be done only in cases where collusion is suspected but people do it often to see what their opponent will call with
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Every card room I played at in Florida, asking to see was legal and done somewhat widely.

I asked the dealer to see my first time at the Wynn as he mucked the hand. I said, "ah, nevermind" and he replied, "I wouldn't have shown you anyway." He said if I really wanted to see, I'd have to get the floor, and he's never seen a floorperson there expose someone's hole cards. It's their personal policy.
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Funny that this thread started since I have a question regarding rules. Here's the scenario:

Co - $500
Button - $1000
SB - $1200


These three players make it to the flop at a 5/10 NL table, and the board comes 6T9. The action becomes a reraising fest, and CO gets all his money while the button and SB both call and see a turn. Before any action is commenced on the turn, the CO says "Well, I flopped it. Is someone going to suckout?" (After the hand was over, CO did indeed have 78 for the flopped nuts).

So, is that legal to say what your hand is with two other players still having to play the hand?
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Old 10-17-06, 10:47 PM
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What he said was legal, yes.
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What exactly would have been illegal?

Saying I have 87 or something?
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Depending on the cash game, turning his cards face up MAY have been illegal. Announcing what he had may have gotten him a warning, but it wouldn't kill his hand or anything.
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