I am the Bad Beat King!

[SirFWALGMan]

I put this Bad Beat on today. I am not proud of it. Anyone think I should have folded the flop? I really only had 15BB in by the turn and had to call a capped round. I think KQ and myself should have folded. However I was having a slightly down session and decided to see the turn, and the river if the turn gave me 4 to a flush. I would have won if I made the flush also. So I have a gutshot straight draw and a backdoor flush draw. Otherwise I am drawing dead. I was about 5BB short of having pot odds for the call. Chances are if I make either of my hands I win. If the board pairs I was thinking I beaten by a boat (which turned out to be true). Its nice to see one of my Bad Beats win for a change! heh.

***** Hand History for Game 1265133202 *****
$3/$6 Hold'em - Monday, December 06, 00:00:00 EDT 2004
Table Table 12280 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: SoonersRule2 ( $227.84 )
Seat 4: BigO9 ( $126.5 )
Seat 5: potraid ( $260.5 )
Seat 7: kissmelove ( $160.08 )
Seat 8: Smallstake ( $236 )
Seat 9: Rawly ( $42.75 )
Seat 10: SirFWALGMan ( $86 )
Seat 2: noway4me ( $92 )
Seat 1: ISUcyclones ( $90.5 )
Seat 6: SweRounder ( $278 )
potraid posts small blind [$1].
SweRounder posts big blind [$3].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirFWALGMan [ Kh Th ]
kissmelove folds.
Smallstake folds.
Rawly calls [$3].
SirFWALGMan calls [$3].
ISUcyclones raises [$6].
noway4me calls [$6].
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SoonersRule2 calls [$6].
BigO9 folds.
potraid folds.
SweRounder folds.
Rawly calls [$3].
SirFWALGMan calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 4h, Jc ]
Rawly checks.
SirFWALGMan checks.
ISUcyclones bets [$3].
noway4me calls [$3].
SoonersRule2 calls [$3].
Rawly raises [$6].
SirFWALGMan calls [$6].
ISUcyclones calls [$3].
noway4me calls [$3].
SoonersRule2 raises [$6].
Rawly raises [$6].
SirFWALGMan calls [$6].
ISUcyclones calls [$6].
noway4me calls [$6].
SoonersRule2 calls [$3].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
Rawly checks.
SirFWALGMan checks.
ISUcyclones checks.
noway4me checks.
SoonersRule2 bets [$6].
Rawly calls [$6].
SirFWALGMan raises [$12].
ISUcyclones folds.
noway4me calls [$12].
SoonersRule2 calls [$6].
Rawly calls [$6].
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
Rawly checks.
SirFWALGMan bets [$6].
noway4me calls [$6].
SoonersRule2 calls [$6].
Rawly folds.
SirFWALGMan shows [ Kh, Th ] a straight, nine to king.
noway4me doesn't show [ Kc, Qc ] a pair of queens.
SoonersRule2 doesn't show [ Jd, Js ] three of a kind, jacks.
SirFWALGMan wins $157 from the main pot with a straight, nine to king.

[junYUN]

haha, very nice beat. you probably should have laid it down though, what if someone was sittin on AQ, AK? you coulda been drawing dead, that's a really bad play but hey it pays off sometimes.

[johnbaker]

ive lost all respect for you. i hope you made that up as a joke or something...

[SirFWALGMan]

Disclaimer: I write a Poker blog and play alot and pretent I know what I am doing, but nobody should respect or even listen to me much.

I know it was a REALLY bad play. All I can say in my defence is I was having a bad session and said "WTF! I am going to go for it!". It was the last hand I was going to play on that table for the night. I needed to get some sleep for work and things like that which get in the way.

If you think you were dissapointed how do you think SoonersRule2 felt?

[hackers238]

Haha great excuse... Did you ever think that it only takes 1 of those hands every other hour to move you from 3 BB/hr to about -3 BB/hr??

don't get me started on BB/hr again...

[jdiana86]

I feel you man:

***** Hand History for Game 1269197057 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Mon Dec 06 23:55:33 EST 2004
Table Pick Pockets (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: OthersMoney ( $26.55)
Seat 2: magicmtn ( $27.15)
Seat 3: junkaddict ( $54.25)
Seat 4: IceJarl ( $30.45)
Seat 5: Pray4Love ( $30.4)
Seat 6: ElementSen ( $24.5)
Seat 7: RedRubin ( $27.35)
Seat 8: Showboat23 ( $26.6)
Seat 9: smart2fold ( $89.53)
Seat 10: jdiana86 ( $24.65)
OthersMoney posts small blind (0.25)
magicmtn posts big blind (0.5)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jdiana86 [ Kd, Ad ]
junkaddict folds.
IceJarl folds.
Pray4Love calls (0.5)
ElementSen folds.
RedRubin folds.
Showboat23 folds.
smart2fold folds.
jdiana86 raises (3) to 3
OthersMoney folds.
magicmtn raises (5.5) to 6
Pray4Love folds.
jdiana86 raises (21.65) to 24.65
jdiana86 is all-In.
magicmtn calls (18.65)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, 8c, Th ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qd ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 7d ]
Creating Main Pot with $50.05 with jdiana86
** Summary **
Main Pot: $50.05 | | Rake: $0
Board: [ 8d 8c Th Qd 7d ]
OthersMoney balance $26.3, lost $0.25 (folded)
magicmtn balance $2.5, lost $24.65 [ Ah Ac ] [ two pairs, aces and eights -- Ah,Ac,Qd,8d,8c ]
junkaddict balance $54.25, didn't bet (folded)
IceJarl balance $30.45, didn't bet (folded)
Pray4Love balance $29.9, lost $0.5 (folded)
ElementSen balance $24.5, didn't bet (folded)
RedRubin balance $27.35, didn't bet (folded)
Showboat23 balance $26.6, didn't bet (folded)
smart2fold balance $89.53, didn't bet (folded)
jdiana86 balance $50.05, bet $24.65, collected $50.05, net +$25.4 [ Kd Ad ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ad,Kd,Qd,8d,7d ]

[SirFWALGMan]

Hey, I feaking did it again! I am always going for the gutshot if a Q is involved! Ha! I had better Pot odds this time though! I am such a fish! So far my Q gutshots are +EV though! heh.

***** Hand History for Game 1269080464 *****
$3/$6 Hold'em - Monday, December 06, 23:31:55 EDT 2004
Table Table 25527 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Two_biscuit ( $228 )
Seat 3: johnzacco ( $9.5 )
Seat 5: plzpayup ( $193 )
Seat 7: martyskull ( $125.5 )
Seat 8: gonzalo1776 ( $74.25 )
Seat 9: WedgeWorld ( $105 )
Seat 6: SirFWALGMan ( $131 )
Seat 10: skeptic ( $156 )
Seat 2: AceTheTrd ( $144 )
Seat 4: Madriani ( $147 )
Two_biscuit posts small blind [$1].
AceTheTrd posts big blind [$3].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirFWALGMan [ Kh Js ]
johnzacco folds.
Madriani folds.
plzpayup calls [$3].
SirFWALGMan calls [$3].
martyskull calls [$3].
gonzalo1776 calls [$3].
WedgeWorld calls [$3].
skeptic folds.
Two_biscuit raises [$5].
AceTheTrd calls [$3].
plzpayup calls [$3].
SirFWALGMan calls [$3].
martyskull calls [$3].
gonzalo1776 calls [$3].
WedgeWorld calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, As, 2s ]
Two_biscuit checks.
AceTheTrd checks.
plzpayup checks.
SirFWALGMan checks.
martyskull checks.
gonzalo1776 checks.
WedgeWorld bets [$3].
Two_biscuit calls [$3].
AceTheTrd calls [$3].
plzpayup calls [$3].
SirFWALGMan calls [$3].
martyskull folds.
gonzalo1776 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
Two_biscuit checks.
AceTheTrd checks.
>You have options at Table 23528 Table!.
plzpayup checks.
SirFWALGMan checks.
WedgeWorld bets [$6].
Two_biscuit raises [$12].
AceTheTrd folds.
plzpayup folds.
SirFWALGMan calls [$12].
WedgeWorld calls [$6].
>You have options at Table 11280 Table!.
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
Two_biscuit bets [$6].
SirFWALGMan raises [$12].
WedgeWorld folds.
>You have options at Table 23528 Table!.
Two_biscuit calls [$6].
SirFWALGMan shows [ Kh, Js ] a straight, ten to ace.
Two_biscuit doesn't show [ Ts, Td ] three of a kind, tens.
SirFWALGMan wins $114 from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.
>You have options at Table 23528 Table!.

[BrianSwa]

since when has it been ok to make the wrong decisions, wrong calls and put a bad beat on someone and be proud about it? What is this game comming to where there is a forum about it?

[SirFWALGMan]

Hey, never said I was proud of it. Sharing my shame. The second one I actually had the right pot odds to make the call so I am ok with that move.

[junYUN]

sTAY AWAY FROM MY TABLES WITH YOUR GUTSHOTS!

[Kidd7138]

At least you didn't river either of them, if that makes the loser feel better, maybe? o wait it doesn't.

Keep getting lucky man, its working for you so far lol

[Tuff Luck]

Geez.. do you live 6 sigmas out of the normal distribution or something??

Haha.. gotta love tilt boys.

[SirFWALGMan]

I had the same draw again and showed some restraint this time and folded it. Would have missed anyway. I think I have a knack for when to play this hand! heh.

[ChipFish]

Wow!
That first hand I am still shaking my head about.
But hey, I'm glad you won, I'd rather someone from here wins a hand like that than someone I don't know.... Mind you that Set of Jacks Guy must be pissed!
I still can't believe you cold-called 2 bets (Twice!!!!) on the flop with nothing but a straight draw. Gutshot at that.

Nice catch!

[SirFWALGMan]

I hardly ever play that way. Sometimes if I am having a frustrating night, and the pot is large (yeah, no pot odds but a sweeeeet pot!) I will go too far. It tends to be a -EV leak, but sometimes it works out. One day I will be more consistant.

[johnbaker]

..uhhhh....yeah, typically calling WITHOUT pot odds with a fucking gutshot will cause a -EV leak.....

btw you did not have correct odds to call the second time... keep telling yourself that as an excuse for such a shitty play though, who am i to call you a terrible player?

-jB

[sjay2k]

It's actually a good call in my opinion.

On the flop it cost you $12 to call for a pot that was slightly under $100. Odds for turning the Q is 4/47 -- however if you hit the straight, you'll have the nuts in a hand with four other players who are betting like madmen. Since the turn and river are the big betting rounds, I think you're assured of at least another 10 big bets ($60)

So basically even paying the full $12 on the flop is a good move. Your average return on the $12 in this situation is at least 4/47 * $160 = $13.61. There was a chance that you could have seen the turn for $6 (your original call before the re-raise), and that would be even better.

[SirFWALGMan]

Someone having a wittle bad day? Need his binky? Jesus dude. I tell you about a couple of hands I decided to play that worked out and you go all postal.. at least it was not against you. Also, you cannot judge a player by a few hands. I could be a far better player than you. You just do not know. So chill out a little.

The second hand all I needed to call the flop bet was 11-1. I definalty had that in there for the small bet. The pre-flop play was a little questionable..