Limit ring game betting/posting questions!

drewjax · #1 12-15-04, 01:34 AM

I have 2 questions about limit ring play that sort of baffled me today.
1. When a player bets out and is all-in, why cant you raise? this makes no sense ot me. I flopped top 2 pr., smooth called the flop, and then the orig. bettor went all-in for .45, and the only option was to fold or call!! Why cant I raise? They obviously have side pots, as there was one on this hand on the river. Is this standard online for all/most sites or is it only on a certain few? Very strange.
2. When you are first sitting into a game, and you want ot post in the cutoff, do most sites charge you 1&1/2 big blinds? I understand that most do, if you leave/sit out and then return, but this site basically charges you the extra half blind unless you post right away, or I think wait for big blind. I know that there was a thread recently about posting in the cutoff, and leaving UTG, and almost everyone says this is what they do. Do you run into these problems at most sites.

Thanks

hackers238 · #2 12-15-04, 07:48 AM

1. I can't remember someone ever going in in limit and me wanting to raise, just because I can't remember it happening. But I don't know the answer to this one.

2. No, Most that I have played at do NOT charge you a small and a big when you first sit down. That is weird. If you miss the blinds and come back most will, but not when you first sit down.

PShabi · #3 12-15-04, 08:02 AM

1. The only way you would not be able to raise is if that "all-in" player is the only one in the pot with you.

2. No, you do not put in 1 1/2 blinds in this situation, anywhere.

BlibbityBlabbity · #4 12-15-04, 10:34 AM

Not exactly.....

This happened to me a couple of times, I finally emailed support on one site and they explained it.....If you raise say 200, and then someone goes all in for their last 300 chips then another person calls the 300, when it gets back to you, you can ONLY call. This is because the all in player did not make a full raise (+ another 200 chips) and you would be essentially raising yourself. I am not sure if that other caller after the all in could have raised (I think they could) but you cannot having already raised and not been officially re-raised.

EDIT....Drew...In the case you mentioned, the all in player didn't "raise" the bet so you couldn't raise either. This might answer my question above about whether that other caller could have raised. It is a very weird rule all around, but the way they explained it to me, it did make sense at the time.

This sucked for me because I wanted to put more pressure on that other caller with the best hand, but one that was vulnerable to draws at the time. I can't remember how it turned out, but since I was motivated to email support to find out why I couldn't raise in this situation, it probably wasn;t good.

EDIT--And I just read the second question too. If you sit out and the blinds pass you by, you either pay the blinds you missed or wait till you are in the BB and post then. This is sometimes 1BB and 1SB (or 1 1/2 BB).

If you sit in at a table and don;t want to wait for the BB, you have to post the BB and then post the BB again when it comes around to you.

2Tone · #5 12-15-04, 12:12 PM

[quote=BlibbityBlabbity]Not exactly.....

This happened to me a couple of times, I finally emailed support on one site and they explained it.....If you raise say 200, and then someone goes all in for their last 300 chips then another person calls the 300, when it gets back to you, you can ONLY call. This is because the all in player did not make a full raise (+ another 200 chips) and you would be essentially raising yourself. I am not sure if that other caller after the all in could have raised (I think they could) but you cannot having already raised and not been officially re-raised.

This situation came up just the other day in B&M tourney I played -- player wanted to re-raise the all in to drive the other caller out, and dealer explained that he could not. And sure enough, the caller ended up winning the hand.

drewjax · #6 12-15-04, 01:17 PM

In the bet/raise situation, there were more than 2 players in the hand. The person who went all-in did so as the first to act. There were still 3 other players in the hand, one in front and another behind me. I will never know why I couldnt raise.
Also, the thing with posting, I have played at several sites and if you sit down you can wait quite awhile and post whenever you want for 1 big blind. I guess this site just kind of sucks in those 2 instances, but I will stick with it and keep fishing!!