Frangos folding pocket Queens...

[omahilo]

Anyone watching the new circuit event?

Frangos makes a great laydown with the pocket Queens with Lindgren having pocket Kings and Goldstein having pocket jacks. Not saying this is a impossible fold, Ive folded pocket Queens preflop a few times before but he did it so quickly.

Also his chat before he looked at his cards said alot too... he said 'cmon one time' which means he is folding anything but pocket aces IMO. Frangos saw the Queens then folded them so quickly.

very nice read/laydown.

[lightfungus]

If i'm not mistaken there was a raise by the internet 22 year old, then another guy reraised him, and another reraised again. If I were playing this I would say it was time to dip too.

The winner said it himself, he was very lucky, and he was. He made some bad/aggressive calls. Chris got knocked out by him when he called with A9, the guy was just lucky. I feel bad for chris lately he seems to not be getting the luck he needs as of late including last year. How about that internet guy, he made a bad move and I noticed he like playing aces with the weak kickers...said to see us interneters represented poorly.

[BrianSwa]

Erik played so well, really sucks that he didnt win.

[omahilo]

well the 'internet' guy is GambleAB... one of the most respected players online, so its not like he is just one of the randoms that qualifies for the ME via a sat or something.

if you do a search for him on FTP or PS you will find him in the bigger buyin tourneys all the time doing well.

[lightfungus]

Cool, I guess my vision was just skewed because of tv. THats one reason it bothers me to watch select hands from a tourney.

[omahilo]

yeah he is a aggressive online player and when you watch it on TV your going to see him making moves that would make him look somewhat bad.

Like you see Gus go allin with a A5 your not going to say 'hes a online player whose lucky' your going to say 'its Gus'.

[BrianSwa]

I used to play Magic the gathering with him.

[JDMcNugent7]

What is with that game- alot of young people at the WSOP played Magic The Gathering.
I've heard of it but never seen anyone playing it or anything like that.

[Talking Poker]

That was a nice fold. I would have dumped the Queens in that spot too (considering all the stacks and especialy the action in front of him), but I would have thought about it a lot longer than he did (what, 2 seconds?). Nice play.

[Zybomb]

I think it was pretty obvious that QQ was no good there. The pot had been opened, reraised, and then re-reraised (not to mention there were still players to act behind him).

Even assuming the original opener had only a decent hand, and the reraiser had something like AK, the 3rd raiser has to have at least a pair JJ or higher

You are behind with QQ with that action 95% of the time IMO

[omahilo]

Frangos did luck out because of the action in front of him...

GambleAB raised UTG or UTG+1 with 9Ts, which isnt horrible since he will steal the blinds more often than not and people do this alot but you just dont see it on television.

Lindgren then reraises with KK... Lindgren is a aggressive player so this doesnt mean he has a hand. If Goldstein just calls Frangos might of came in behind him.

Or if GambleAB never plays the hand and Lindgren is the original bettor because Lindgren could have anything opening the betting.

GambleAB opening the betting and Goldstein re-raising with the jacks (very bad IMO) saved him from losing.

It wasnt a hard laydown with 3 raises in front of you but he did it without even thinking about putting a chip into the pot.

[Talking Poker]

If the button was in a different place (the other side of GambleAB), I think he would have gone broke on this hand.

[BrianSwa]

used to play magic the gathering online with him, he actully recognized my name since I used stormswa on there also. He was on full tilt and in red and I was like who is this guy? he was like you used to play MTGO and was like long time ago and we started chatting. Really nice guy, very down to earth.

[Aequitas58]

Gamble is a VERY good poker player. The WSOP coverage on ESPN showed him making a few shitty plays, but this kid is really good. He's a regular on RGP.

[omahilo]

Finally someone agrees with me... ESPN did him no justice, he is a very good poker player.

[Talking Poker]

I didn't think they plays they showed made him look particularly bad, it was Norman Chad's annoying little commments. Gamble wasn't overplaying Ace Rage all day, but they made it look like that. And those "internet" comments Chad kept making really got annoying after a while.

Eventually, these guys are going to realize that there are some "internet players" who are damn good B&M players too.

[lightfungus]

Personally I just prefer to watch the WSOP muted, I hate those announcers. In fact I have problems with announcers across all of sports (not saying that poker is a sport). They say the obvious a lot and that pisses me off. But those poker guys are just idiots. Those divorce jokes? Gimme a break.

[Aequitas58]

...I've said it before and I'll say it again, Norman Chad shouldn't be listened to for in depth analysis. He's colorful. It's entertaining.

If ESPN isn't going to have someone to dissect the play as we watch it (ie: Harrington or Furgeson analyzing the play) then I prefer someone like N. Chad.

Besides ... I'm in a committed relationship, and his marital humor cracks me up.

[omahilo]

N. Chad is funny and I do find humor in some of the things he saids but your not going to listen to him when it comes to poker advice, etc.

Chad also is just going to call GambleAB a 'regular internet' player because he doesnt know any better, its not like he plays online himself and knows how good he really is.